From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Don't add tags to ELPA packages -- documentation? Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 15:51:05 -0700 Message-ID: <87fsv7ofc6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87fsv7bww1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k0kjoi3j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mtpfenog.fsf@alphapapa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34474"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Adam Porter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 18 00:52:15 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mG7wM-0008fY-Sl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 00:52:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52480 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mG7wL-0004Qa-7O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 17 Aug 2021 18:52:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60440) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mG7vN-0003hC-W4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Aug 2021 18:51:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:54806) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mG7vM-0004hk-4s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Aug 2021 18:51:13 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (75-172-126-110.tukw.qwest.net [75.172.126.110]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7FCC0FA07F; Tue, 17 Aug 2021 22:51:10 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1629240670; bh=zlcLSAFE2m5SvXXoD9atdPKahhbCjpOpYgkH41XJrlo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=gUQPyEkEIgorl3PeKnk+YwzTiKx3r3a9YjIxyep7EVvDotqN8MnhNR8DgpOEjb6bP 44hx/8OtILutrWSSChhC/Qwxp+Co9IpkU5ElGJEwE5K5gi+LSJmms1IVEQaMpZPGO9 9C9ePiHSpOHc85gt1/MFtrt4rglhsjH54nWe/R9M= In-Reply-To: <87mtpfenog.fsf@alphapapa.net> (Adam Porter's message of "Tue, 17 Aug 2021 17:01:03 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=52.70.2.18; envelope-from=eric@ericabrahamsen.net; helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:272527 Archived-At: Adam Porter writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Stefan Monnier writes: >> >>>> Can I patch the README to tell developers not to use tags at all? >>> >>> Sure. >>> Indeed tags are not used in elpa.git and nongnu.git. >>> >>> Of course, you can still use tags there if you want, like in any >>> other repository, but you're better off giving them names that include >>> the relevant package's name, like `ebdb-0.7`. >> >> Good to know! I don't suppose you know what happens when we add ELPA or >> nongnu ELPA as a new remote to a repo already containing tags that will >> conflict with ELPA tags? Do you know at what stage git will bark at us? >> Anyway, I can probably figure this out myself, but inquiring minds on >> Matrix want to know... > > Well, that mind would be mine. :) Yes, I'd like to submit some of my > packages (including some that are already on MELPA) to ELPA or nongnu > ELPA at some point, but I tag my stable releases with tags like "0.6.1", > which MELPA uses for MELPA Stable packages. It seems like I'd have to > either delete the tags or rename them with the package name as a prefix, > and AFAIK either one would be incompatible with MELPA Stable. Of > course, I guess there'd be no need to be on MELPA anymore in that case, > but having to fix all the tags would be a hassle, and then I'd have to > break an old habit. I guess one can't have everything, but it'd be > great if this could be "solved." The idea of sharing tags with other > repos that aren't part of my own repos feels a little like a Twilight > Zone episode, if there were an Emacs edition: they're not there, but > they're there... :) My first inkling of this issue came when I ran "git tag -l" in my EBDB repo, and it returned hyperbole- and eglot-related tags. Talk about Twilight Zone... I was planning to order up an exorcism on my repository.