From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Moving kbd to subr.el Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 04:53:05 +0200 Message-ID: <87fssvjdgu.fsf@gnus.org> References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <83k0iflsze.fsf@gnu.org> <874k9jzu7a.fsf@gnus.org> <874k9juy0r.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtnbtimj.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnmd13ny.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfx10xs6.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7dfpjn3.fsf@gnus.org> <31b2f1e94178d73e5f05@heytings.org> <83fsszfnjw.fsf@gnu.org> <31b2f1e9412c9002c8f4@heytings.org> <875ytvpgnn.fsf@gnus.org> <838ryqftlh.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgr487cj.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34306"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , gregory@heytings.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "T.V Raman" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 21 04:54:41 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mdOE5-0008kn-6X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 04:54:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59062 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdOE4-0008KF-3L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 22:54:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58004) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdOCf-0006sT-N2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 22:53:13 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:43632) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdOCd-0001lc-PN; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 22:53:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Gl6d5rhbhpc3EBH2zLl9Im7schbwEZ4nFvSx0NqSrGc=; b=ldiVl32Uz62i3eaFFO+jbzh74n dKEbvvsr7ndw7XKESCjrqYeoh47sQIVjpNhT+Exm2V8QbVPFkIZJwZfFwruBQ/4s9qfkYL8csybCc gc0ew0ihClbmxFgl7b8tALplGNf6j88QQDm3IG57tbJuQ+pSs8jV7p3YHIVAe5Am8ENI=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mdOCX-0005HC-Vh; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 04:53:09 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEVPSZeWZJemqNJL J1z///9SRQkfAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+UKFQIpL0s56UEAAAGPSURBVDjLbZSLscQg CEUhNCDaQLQCMvTf2+OjxrxZd3Ym4Xj5KQGYC0euDt9Vx/hJLrdwQef3P0EBIAU28gG3kIo9EIzB rx19u9uRtB5hmMFIahAOZ6blQupLsFxbcnXT6FwCVJdk3MhNN3HJnTWUWsJGlrAKwwQ4kIm2QtG2 JmAuoseyrVm9RYA0ccSy8lclkuBJINahFIDSAhx5LVB0ecp6eEaHFXuBiydYuU5XigvsRPlJgLMp /tIOhWBEVwfUngTN0y2zEENmonDl4I1BCitGlF4DqFeC4WQW+CyFvWOYnieB7QQJ8laSp+iORK3C CaZCKADtyj1IKCRC03FKloGhTFXgPFdz1xLQihBZ+b9MyeyVX604QQfyAsQAD5PYnZx2v7NeYfMm MkF7ARa2wejooDxlhSDB7rPUvWPWDLvx6/bwqDFrzN3bvyUQs2fAf7UJvKD7dA5r8jBwjCDWmOde HZUDQO3pzZPjE1zDNlcrxgfwlOD+MNi9+fja34zPd+ElHX6v63iWEyDti/wHpVlir3d8zIMAAAAl dEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjEtMTAtMjFUMDI6NDE6NDYrMDA6MDDcWq4VAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRl Om1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTEwLTIxVDAyOjQxOjQ2KzAwOjAwrQcWqQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Alice Coltrane's _Kirtan Turiya Sings_: "Rama Katha" In-Reply-To: (T. V. Raman's message of "Wed, 20 Oct 2021 07:21:27 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277487 Archived-At: "T.V Raman" writes: > Lars -- I agree in principle, but I think the details matter; let's > rephrase as "We dont need to or even *shouldn't* plan to support *every* > syntactic nuance used by kbd". > > Many of the weird corner cases that kbd supports --- likely mostly by > accident --- will never be typed by users in their emacs configuration. Oh, no -- we're aiming for the syntax defined by `kdb-valid-p', which is a small subset of the stuff that `kbd' accepts. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no