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From: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Platform independent graphical display for Emacs
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 14:17:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fsqgsu1p.fsf@telefonica.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 83fsqgrhb0.fsf@gnu.org

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> > So you'd suggest to the OP to develop the software in the hope that
>> > all of the above will happen?  And if it doesn't, just agree for the
>> > results to be abandoned?  The OP would have to agree to that.
>> 
>> Why oh why you don't just say "go ahead and we will look at your work
>> when you have something to show" ?
>
> I did -- but that was before I understood what was being proposed.
> The OP wanted assurance that the code will be accepted once done,

Oh, I missed that part. xenodasein: is that really what you want or is
there a misunderstanding here?

> and
> I cannot in good faith give him that, given what's being actually
> proposed.

Obviously you can't give that type of assurances for any proposal.

>> To insist: the proposed system would have three characteristics:
>> 
>> 1. Cross-platform (as the proposal's subject says)
>> 
>> 2. Simplicity, compared to what we have now.
>> 
>> 3. New graphical capabilities that will make possible new high-level
>>    features.
>> 
>> I don't know why you keep ignoring point 3, which is the most important,
>> and reduce the proposal to "oh, someone wants to add one more graphical
>> backend."
>
> I'm not ignoring anything.  You, OTOH, ignore both what is being
> proposed and the rest of the discussion.  In effect, you are talking
> about an entirely different proposal, one about which I said it
> _would_ make sense.

Well, maybe I'm thinking on what *I* would like to see instead on what
the OP is actually proposing.

xenodasein: would you say that my 3 points above fully describe your
proposal?




  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-25 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-22 19:19 Motif support xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-22 19:35 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-22 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-22 20:24   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-23  6:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23  7:58       ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23  8:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 11:46           ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 11:52             ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 12:43               ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 12:52                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 17:35                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-24  0:38                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  1:17                       ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  1:24                         ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  1:37                           ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  7:24                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  8:06                               ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  8:24                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-24  8:37                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  2:20                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-24  2:43                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  2:59                             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-12-24  3:17                               ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  3:26                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  3:36                                   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  7:27                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  4:30                               ` Platform independent graphical display for Emacs Stefan Kangas
2021-12-24  4:44                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  6:28                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-24  6:43                                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  5:24                                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-12-24  7:33                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  8:10                                   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  8:41                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  8:48                                       ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25  0:30                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25  7:25                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 11:23                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 11:38                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 11:57                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 12:06                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 12:59                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 13:08                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 12:06                                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:08                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 13:36                                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 12:20                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25 12:29                                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 12:49                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 12:54                                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:03                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 13:07                                                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:09                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25 13:20                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 14:08                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25 14:36                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 13:39                                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:44                                                   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 12:37                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 13:00                                               ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 13:05                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 13:11                                                   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 13:17                                               ` Óscar Fuentes [this message]
2021-12-25 13:26                                                 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 13:27                                                 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 11:51                                         ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:24                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 13:31                                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 14:14                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 14:30                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-26  1:12                                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-26  1:51                                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-26  1:56                                                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  9:55                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-24 10:02                                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 10:16                                   ` Stephen Berman
2021-12-24 10:54                                     ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 11:07                                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 11:29                                         ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 11:31                                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 11:39                                             ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 12:08                                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 12:22                                                 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 12:27                                                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 12:57                                                     ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 13:09                                                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 14:27                                                         ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 16:05                                                         ` martin rudalics
2021-12-25  0:22                                                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-25  9:18                                                             ` martin rudalics
2021-12-25  9:42                                                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-26  8:25                                                             ` martin rudalics
2021-12-26 10:16                                                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 11:45                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-24 12:02                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 13:19                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-24 13:26                                         ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 14:00                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25  0:20                                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-25  0:47                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25  0:57                                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25  3:24                                           ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2021-12-25  5:03                                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-25  5:12                                               ` Jose Antonio Ortega Ruiz
2021-12-25  5:23                                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25  6:57                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25  9:18                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-12-25  5:41                                             ` LdBeth
2021-12-25  5:51                                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 13:42                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 14:19                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-24 11:50                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 12:45                                     ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  7:17                         ` Motif support Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  0:46                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 15:05   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-23 15:08     ` Eli Zaretskii

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