From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonas Bernoulli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53316: 28.0.91; Missing Transient manual in Emacs Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:57:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87fsokcbjf.fsf@bernoul.li> References: <87o845s4xv.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilu77e3i.fsf@bernoul.li> <680E378A-BF43-4F47-BD2A-525A57283F49@gmail.com> <87a6fj7c0m.fsf@bernoul.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31416"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 53316@debbugs.gnu.org To: Philipp Stephani Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 15 18:01:50 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nK1D3-0007tp-Tn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 18:01:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35620 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nK1Cn-00040g-1r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 12:01:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60352) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nK1AO-00040D-VY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:59:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:52434) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nK1AM-0006zr-H1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:59:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nK1AM-0006Qh-HL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:59:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jonas Bernoulli Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53316 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 53316-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53316.164494429424620 (code B ref 53316); Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:59:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53316) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Feb 2022 16:58:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46330 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nK19Z-0006P0-GT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:58:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.hostpark.net ([212.243.197.30]:46436) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nK19L-0006Nu-LO for 53316@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:58:12 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F2B16AAC; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:57:58 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=bernoul.li; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received :received; s=sel2011a; t=1644944276; bh=88w37up9KQXIa73iwo3yYCe9 h/OEVxZhUu1Spg1Xqh0=; b=vPiMI/GnRf59x//KBbg1k4Uod7gzPG2TSaXadFa2 eyuKv7JyjmFRWz7W/E+yHmm9j2ODYezTBeM7zQu3UxHKi+YEp6Dx4Fl3CaF9+2uu /6sFKx3sRDcM3loix6TNrsIdeLSzeGRVq1JoMHnIbquJy/JpRMll8C50uK4FdPKe eoU= X-Virus-Scanned: by Hostpark/NetZone Mailprotection at hostpark.net Original-Received: from mail.hostpark.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.hostpark.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10224) with ESMTP id xRkSeXEi6fC4; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:57:56 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C36B716AA9; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:57:56 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87a6fj7c0m.fsf@bernoul.li> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:227000 Archived-At: Jonas Bernoulli writes: > Philipp Stephani writes: > >>> Am 25.01.2022 um 21:30 schrieb Jonas Bernoulli : >>> >>> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >>> >>>> Philipp Stephani writes: >>>> >>>>> Transient has its own manual (transient.org/.texi), but that's missing >>>>> from the version shipped with Emacs. Could we add the manual to the >>>>> Emacs release? >>>> >>>> Sounds like a good idea to me; adding Jonas to the CCs. >>> >>> Agreed. I was planning to create a new release first and merge that >>> into "emacs-28" before doing so, but it seems the ship has sailed. >>> >>> On the other hand it contains important bug fixes (but also new >>> features) and nothing on "emacs-28" uses it yet. So maybe it would >>> still be okay to update even during the pre-release phase; I don't know. >>> Removing it from "emacs-28" and only releasing it in 29 (or maybe 28.2) >>> might also be an option. >> >> Or maybe it would be feasible to add the manual version that >> corresponds to the Emacs 28 version? > > Yes. Just saying that wasn't the plan. (And that won't make the bugs > go away. And some of them were quite severe, but I believe that those > that made it necessary to kill Emacs from the outside have at least > been neutered, i.e. there's still an error but Emacs remains usable.) I had another look and I think we are safe going with v0.3.7. While that comes after the "big refactor to squash the big bug" changes it does comes right after the "remove booby trap" commit. Actually I think that commit is why I released v0.3.7. ;P Jonas