From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: DragonFlyBSD Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:45:07 +0100 Message-ID: <87fso537cc.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <83tucvz53x.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfsecw2c.fsf@zoho.eu> <87r17wydgk.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31996"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:u1P6xAnEgGCjR5Gfso7s/rzUt8I= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 26 18:06:30 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nO0Wc-0008AT-Mu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2022 18:06:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55308 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nO0Wb-0006G7-Cc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:06:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59876) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nO0VF-0005ni-Bh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:05:05 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:40408) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nO0VD-0008IE-T0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:05:05 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nO0VB-00064C-Po for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2022 18:05:01 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136209 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: >>> What I like is system consistency, like what Debian has, >>> that one can upgrade the system over and over again >>> without reboot, and all things work. Uptime like 536 days >>> or 966 days is what I have now on some computers >>> with Debian. >> >> Yeah I've used Debian for a long time, I like it a lot but >> don't say necessarily it is better than other distros. > > For me, I look from freedom viewpoint, I cannot recommend > Debian as it will recommend non-free software to fellows. > So I exclude non-free and use those FSF fully free > distributions, sometimes self-made distribution for myself > only. It's not that hard to build it yourself. You can do that on Debian by excluding the non-free part from the sources.list line(s) - never heard of anyone actually doing that tho ... >> In particular, I think the package manager system and whole >> idea installing stuff explicitely from the command line >> should be replaced by a declarative system. It would have >> rollback features and all, but that's not the most >> important thing, the most important thing would be to have >> the system configurable and setup with precision and ease >> in text files like you do everything else in computing ... > > I don't like text files ? > I expect system to be very adjustable through user friendly > menus ?? > And on GUI I would be doing it with mouse ??? > In fact I expect in 21st century that computer knows me > enough, so that I do not need to adjust anything ???? -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal