From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 401df58023f2515905195f5e170b29d1; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 02:59:08 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <86tu4juu8i.fsf@gmail.com> (Tim Cross's message of "Wed, 05 Oct 2022 08:30:07 +1100") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20702 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.184.44; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic317-33.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296940 Archived-At: Tim Cross writes: > Now things are just getting ridiculous. Your original requirement was > for a name free of jargon and non-technical. GCC Is a compiler. Anyone who has reason to use a compiler should know what it is. In addition, the C compiler on Unix-like systems is traditionally "CC", with various different compilers prepending a letter or two (i.e. pcc, xlc, et cetera.) Such precedent has not been set with language server clients: for example, KDE's Kate calls theirs "LSP Client". > GNU Is an operating system, made as a clone of Unix. It is also a name that requires uniqueness there are many different Unix-like operating systems out there. Would you also demand that MS Windows be named "Operating System"? Or Sun Solaris "Operating System"? > Emacs Was named in 1976, and the ship with its name has long since sailed. That is not the case with eglot. > Then you suggest we should change the name of company mode, a mode which > has been extremely successful and over the many years it has existed, > I've never seen a single person say anything like "Oh wow, I just > discovered what company is, if only it had a better name which would > have alerted me sooner!". I have, in the past I was extremely confused by the relationship between auto-complete and company due to the name of the latter.