From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.orgmode Subject: bug#59882: Multiple versions of Org in load-path problem Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 14:47:42 +0000 Message-ID: <87fsdfs8vl.fsf@localhost> References: <87tu27jq7h.fsf@localhost> <87k032nyok.fsf@localhost> <39a5810d-75bc-4ddb-8722-703f762ed4de@app.fastmail.com> <835yel11x8.fsf@gnu.org> <87edt2qpoa.fsf@localhost> <83359innsp.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmcmt8cc.fsf@localhost> <3bf2e057-4204-cdc8-0847-39a723db4fc8@gmail.com> <809ae318-fe95-1023-6bca-ba827fd01a29@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38626"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , 59882@debbugs.gnu.org To: Max Nikulin Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 16 15:48:29 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p6C0i-0009lX-9Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 15:48:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6C0K-0004QD-NC; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:48:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6C0J-0004Ly-9e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:48:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6C0J-0007ex-1h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:48:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p6C0I-0006Us-EL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:48:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 14:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59882 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59882-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59882.167120208024958 (code B ref 59882); Fri, 16 Dec 2022 14:48:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59882) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2022 14:48:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49785 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p6C0G-0006US-Ei for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:48:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:41143) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p6C0B-0006TZ-EX for 59882@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:47:58 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 879E724002C for <59882@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 15:47:48 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1671202069; bh=Jd3XG4K6OXOw/75rLVJONb637HI/HOXWYQjD+lgxh7s=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=gk3lLfmHmRA8iRZGPQuj9km8hgIq7aAxSdLJY1MitpTJbXoRbJeJsxdkxhMs4xsV6 nXhDVqOiEtHsYrLvwgfpJcXPba/wR7y9mOuRcQkpeaEO3u7OjhZa7nQIY4gy1qjlCj DF29Jxir5GZHMqkZHqSs2MDjv4MYcID1scUnJZLy+RlJCyhU7UqF3lyJiPt5vVkrzr wht2HMOtLWeALRZKNeKTjuF8DWBX8Fq9yLh/r8CRg6GEmz9JlSAGnSN86sbc1f64m/ yFWLePYjYbKBohT7UrVe2VBQPVWGjbGYj7tO6Al/2Uk7HzSNp7CDFhdkWklYpFFOrt LoeHM2+3JTYgQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4NYX5G57nmz6tnh; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 15:47:46 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <809ae318-fe95-1023-6bca-ba827fd01a29@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:251209 gmane.emacs.orgmode:151466 Archived-At: Max Nikulin writes: > I have impression that there is no recipe how to reproduce this bug yet, > just reports that people have faced it. So aspects of autoload may be > considered as a part of brainstorm. > > Other ideas when built-in Org version may be loaded too early: > - restoring previous session. > - user configured Org agenda as startup buffer. > > Can it happen that already loaded version affects compilation of a new > version by package-install. Yes. It is what appears to be happening: https://irreal.org/blog/?p=10996 https://irreal.org/blog/?p=10999 -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . 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So aspects of autoload may be > considered as a part of brainstorm. > > Other ideas when built-in Org version may be loaded too early: > - restoring previous session. > - user configured Org agenda as startup buffer. > > Can it happen that already loaded version affects compilation of a new > version by package-install. Yes. It is what appears to be happening: https://irreal.org/blog/?p=10996 https://irreal.org/blog/?p=10999 -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at