From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonas Bernoulli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [nongnu] main f4166f428a: * elpa-packages (emacsql): New package. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301535 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Stefan Monnier writes: > >> But none of the packages in (Non)GNU ELPA depend on emacsql-, >> so we don't really need to abide by the Melpa packaging. > > The main reason I've added emacsql to NonGNU ELPA is to be able to add > packages that depend on it (such as org-roam). Those packages currently > depend on emacsql- packages. > >>> If we want to add those packages as is, and have them installable, >>> their dependencies must also be in NonGNU ELPA. >> >> I expect that can be changed when needed. > > Agreed. Let's see what Jonas thinks about the plan I proposed. I am super busy and would like to delay thinking about this and working on it until next year. I might actually come to the conclusion that not splitting up the package is the right way to go in this case. Or the backends that--to the best of my knowledge--nobody uses (all the non-sqlite backends), could be moved to separate repositories. Eventually -sqlite-builtin will be the default backend, but we still need -sqlite-module, for older Emacs releases. I intend to deprecate the original -sqlite backend (which uses a custom executable) in a few months, and I intend to then remove it from the repository (to get rid of the tracked sqlite.c), but keep it alive in a separate repository for a while.