Philip Kaludercic writes: > Thierry Volpiatto writes: > >> Philip Kaludercic writes: >> >>> Thierry Volpiatto writes: >>> >>>> When running: >>>> >>>> (package-vc-install '(helm-core >>>> :url "https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm.git" >>>> :main-file "helm-core.el")) >>>> >>>> package-vc-install installs helm-core as intended but also make a full >>>> install of helm package in a helm-core directory; All its dependencies >>>> are also installed which is not expected. >>> >>> Does this have a practical consequence or cause usability problems? >> >> Of course, no body want to have such an installation. > > But is this "just" an aesthetic issues, or does it break something? I don't know, I am not able to reproduce now, I have always error: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Empty checkout for helm-core") signal(error ("Empty checkout for helm-core")) error("Empty checkout for %s" helm-core) package-vc--unpack(#s(package-desc :name helm-core :version nil :summary "No description available." :reqs nil :kind vc :archive nil :dir "/home/thierry/.emacs.d/elpa/helm-core/" :extras nil :signed nil) (:url "https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm.git" :main-file "helm-core.el") nil) package-vc-install((helm-core :url "https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm.git" :main-file "helm-core.el")) (progn (package-vc-install '(helm-core :url "https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm.git" :main-file "helm-core.el"))) eval((progn (package-vc-install '(helm-core :url "https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm.git" :main-file "helm-core.el"))) t) elisp--eval-last-sexp(nil) eval-last-sexp(nil) funcall-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil) call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil) command-execute(eval-last-sexp) > If the former, I'd say that this is a regrettable circumstance, but > not much can be done. If actual, usability issues arise, then that is > a different matter. > >>>> At the end I have two directories, ..elpa/helm-core and >>>> ../elpa/helm-core-2023..., the former containing all the helm files and >>>> the second only the helm-core files. >>> >>> I am afraid this is the consequence of maintaining multiple packages >>> inside the same git repository/directory. >> >> Ok, but this is something that exists and is handy for the developer. > > I understand that, but my hope is that this we can dissuade developers > from using it, because of issues like these. Feats such as these have > been achieved in the past, like with the usage of derived modes or the > standardisation of package headers. > > Note that this doesn't mean you have to use separate Git repositories. > You can continue working in a single repository on multiple branches, > that are simultaneously checked out in separate worktrees. > >>> Given the intentions of package-vc, to make contributing to packages >>> easier by giving users a direct checkout of the development >>> dependencies, I currently do not see a way around this issue :/ >> >> Perhaps look at how straight works (it fetch the recipes from package >> site i.e. MElpa or Elpa)? > > As far as I know, their approach is not applicable (they check out the > repository in a separate directory, then symlink the files into a > separate directory that it then loaded -- which doesn't give the users a > direct checkout anymore), because they have different goals. Keep in > mind that straight is package manager onto itself, while package-vc is > an extension of package.el, so comparing the two doesn't always work > out. > >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In GNU Emacs 29.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo >>>> version 1.16.0, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2023-08-16 built on IPad-S340 >>>> Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101004 >>>> System Description: Linux Mint 21.2 >>>> >>>> Configured using: >>>> 'configure CFLAGS=-O8 --bindir=/usr/local/sbin/emacs-29.1 >>>> --with-mailutils --with-cairo --with-x-toolkit=lucid >>>> --without-tree-sitter --without-native-compilation' >>>> >>>> Configured features: >>>> ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG >>>> JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY >>>> INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS >>>> X11 XAW3D XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM LUCID ZLIB >>>> >>>> Important settings: >>>> value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF-8 >>>> locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix >>>> >>>> Major mode:  >>>> >>>> Minor modes in effect: >>>> emms-mode-line-mode: t >>>> emms-playing-time-display-mode: t >>>> emms-playing-time-mode: t >>>> server-mode: t >>>> psession-mode: t >>>> psession-savehist-mode: t >>>> global-undo-tree-mode: t >>>> undo-tree-mode: t >>>> global-git-gutter-mode: t >>>> display-time-mode: t >>>> winner-mode: t >>>> tv-save-place-mode: t >>>> helm-epa-mode: t >>>> helm-descbinds-mode: t >>>> helm-top-poll-mode: t >>>> helm-adaptive-mode: t >>>> helm-mode: t >>>> helm-minibuffer-history-mode: t >>>> helm-ff-icon-mode: t >>>> shell-dirtrack-mode: t >>>> helm-popup-tip-mode: t >>>> async-bytecomp-package-mode: t >>>> dired-async-mode: t >>>> minibuffer-depth-indicate-mode: t >>>> gcmh-mode: t >>>> tooltip-mode: t >>>> global-eldoc-mode: t >>>> eldoc-mode: t >>>> show-paren-mode: t >>>> mouse-wheel-mode: t >>>> file-name-shadow-mode: t >>>> global-font-lock-mode: t >>>> font-lock-mode: t >>>> column-number-mode: t >>>> line-number-mode: t >>>> transient-mark-mode: t >>>> auto-composition-mode: t >>>> auto-encryption-mode: t >>>> auto-compression-mode: t >>>> >>>> Load-path shadows: >>>> /home/thierry/.emacs.d/elpa/boxquote-20220919.714/boxquote hides ~/elisp/boxquote >>>> >>>> Features: >>>> (shadow epa-mail face-remap emacsbug addressbook-bookmark tv-mu4e-config >>>> config-w3m mu4e-contrib mu4e-patch mu4e mu4e-org org-config ob-gnuplot >>>> org-crypt org-protocol org ob ob-tangle ob-ref ob-lob ob-table ob-exp >>>> org-macro org-src ob-comint org-pcomplete org-list org-footnote >>>> org-faces org-entities ob-emacs-lisp ob-core ob-eval org-cycle org-table >>>> ol org-fold org-fold-core org-keys oc org-loaddefs org-version >>>> org-compat org-macs mu4e-notification notifications mu4e-main mu4e-view >>>> mu4e-mime-parts gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 mm-view mml-smime smime dig >>>> gnus-sum gnus-group gnus-undo gnus-start gnus-dbus gnus-cloud nnimap >>>> nnmail mail-source utf7 nnoo gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range gnus-win gnus >>>> nnheader range appt diary-lib diary-loaddefs cal-menu calendar >>>> cal-loaddefs mu4e-headers mu4e-thread mu4e-compose mu4e-draft >>>> mu4e-actions smtpmail mu4e-search mu4e-lists mu4e-bookmarks mu4e-mark >>>> mu4e-message shr pixel-fill kinsoku url-file svg dom flow-fill hl-line >>>> mu4e-contacts mu4e-update mu4e-folders mu4e-context mu4e-query-items >>>> mu4e-server mu4e-modeline mu4e-vars mu4e-helpers mu4e-config mu4e-window >>>> ido mu4e-obsolete helm-ring char-fold image-file image-converter dired-x >>>> ffap helm-core-autoloads popup-autoloads wfnames-autoloads >>>> async-autoloads loaddefs-gen tar-mode arc-mode archive-mode jka-compr >>>> cl-print cl-indent helm-firefox shortdoc helm-dabbrev package-vc >>>> lisp-mnt em-unix em-term term disp-table ehelp em-script em-prompt em-ls >>>> em-hist em-pred em-glob em-extpipe em-cmpl em-dirs esh-var em-basic >>>> em-banner em-alias esh-mode eshell esh-cmd generator esh-ext esh-opt >>>> esh-proc esh-io esh-arg esh-module esh-groups esh-util esh-toggle >>>> cl-extra helm-command helm-elisp helm-eval edebug debug backtrace >>>> find-func smerge-mode helm-x-files helm-for-files helm-bookmark >>>> helm-info bookmark emms-config emms-librefm-stream >>>> emms-librefm-scrobbler emms-playlist-limit emms-i18n emms-history >>>> emms-score emms-stream-info emms-metaplaylist-mode emms-bookmarks >>>> emms-cue emms-mode-line-icon emms-browser sort emms-volume >>>> emms-volume-sndioctl emms-volume-mixerctl emms-volume-pulse >>>> emms-volume-amixer emms-playlist-sort emms-last-played emms-player-xine >>>> emms-player-mpd tq emms-lyrics emms-url emms-streams emms-show-all >>>> emms-tag-editor emms-tag-tracktag emms-mark emms-mode-line emms-cache >>>> emms-info-native bindat emms-info-exiftool emms-info-tinytag >>>> emms-info-metaflac emms-info-opusinfo emms-info-ogginfo >>>> emms-info-mp3info emms-playlist-mode emms-player-vlc emms-player-mpv >>>> emms-playing-time emms-info emms-later-do emms-player-mplayer >>>> emms-player-simple emms-source-playlist emms-source-file locate >>>> emms-setup emms emms-compat emms-auto helm-external helm-net mm-archive >>>> message sendmail yank-media rfc822 mml mml-sec gnus-util mailabbrev >>>> gmm-utils mailheader mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-utils gnutls >>>> network-stream url-cache url-http url-auth mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 >>>> rfc2045 mm-util ietf-drums mail-prsvr url-gw nsm puny tramp-archive >>>> tramp-gvfs tramp-cache time-stamp zeroconf dbus xml finder-inf >>>> helm-packages helm-ls-git vc-git diff-mode vc vc-dispatcher >>>> emacs-news-mode noutline outline flymake-shellcheck cus-start >>>> flymake-proc flymake project warnings thingatpt sh-script smie treesit >>>> executable bug-reference naquadah-theme server imenu psession frameset >>>> undo-tree diff queue pcase git-gutter mule-util dired-extension time >>>> winner describe-variable help-fns radix-tree help-mode tv-utils >>>> tv-save-place.el advice init-helm epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config >>>> helm-epa isl helm-descbinds all-the-icons all-the-icons-faces >>>> data-material data-weathericons data-octicons data-fileicons >>>> data-faicons data-alltheicons cus-edit pp icons wid-edit helm-sys popup >>>> helm-adaptive helm-mode helm-misc helm-files image-dired >>>> image-dired-tags image-dired-external image-dired-util xdg image-mode >>>> exif filenotify tramp tramp-loaddefs trampver tramp-integration files-x >>>> tramp-compat rx shell pcomplete parse-time iso8601 time-date >>>> helm-buffers helm-occur helm-tags helm-locate helm-grep wgrep-helm wgrep >>>> grep compile text-property-search comint ansi-osc ring helm-regexp >>>> format-spec ansi-color helm-utils helm-help helm-types >>>> helm-extensions-autoloads helm-autoloads helm helm-global-bindings >>>> helm-easymenu edmacro kmacro helm-core easy-mmode async-bytecomp >>>> helm-source helm-multi-match helm-lib dired-async async dired-aux dired >>>> 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simple cl-generic >>>> indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese >>>> tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek >>>> romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese >>>> composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook >>>> jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs >>>> theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties >>>> overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap >>>> hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 >>>> dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo x-toolkit >>>> xinput2 x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) >>>> >>>> Memory information: >>>> ((conses 16 1632011 277793) >>>> (symbols 48 46585 25) >>>> (strings 32 368359 41647) >>>> (string-bytes 1 10334018) >>>> (vectors 16 95280) >>>> (vector-slots 8 2002230 281875) >>>> (floats 8 2332 1240) >>>> (intervals 56 21405 3242) >>>> (buffers 976 120)) >>>> <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> -- Thierry