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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314305 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > I think the intention is to "vendor" miniaudio.h with your program (not > > sure if I'm using the term correctly), > > Can you please state what you mean in different words? "Vendonr" is a > noun, not a verb, and that noun is usually meaningless in the context > of free software. As a result, I can't imagine what a verb "to > vendor" would mean. Vendoring in this context is industry jargon for hosting 3rd party dependencies (in this case the miniaudio library) alongside software (the elisp package). Put plainly, they want to know if it would be okay to host a copy of the miniaudio library alongside their elisp package.