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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 3cae7e8715508feeb8b9527a6472e3cd; Thu, 25 Jan 2024 11:29:54 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Alfred M. Szmidt's message of "Thu, 25 Jan 2024 04:55:24 -0500") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22046 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.185.31; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic313-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315345 Archived-At: "Alfred M. Szmidt" writes: > If you think COND* is better, argue for it using technical arguments. > Someones health issues have literally no bearing on if something is to > be added, to live in ELPA or something else. The technical arguments have already been argued to exhaustion, and only subjective issues remain outstanding, which a consensus will never form around. So what I see is that people are now clamoring to have the feature they find to their distaste confined to ELPA on the grounds that there is already a feature significantly overlapping in functionality in core. It is no coincidence that the feature being targeted embodies the preferences of the opposing side, and between this and the fact that such feature is a compromise enabling those on both sides to coexist, it begins to appear that one side is not willing to settle for any solution where their preferred macro is not the only option (which is the ideal outcome, really, considering the alternatives). With such features, the possibility of hosting them on ELPA should not have been mentioned at all. It is a guarantee of obscurity, not least for potential users in Emacs core, for whom it is practically a death sentence.