From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Moving core packages to ELPA [Was: Re: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release?] Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2024 10:10:31 +0200 Message-ID: <87frtnhn2g.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87bk4ql3u5.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <864jagu9ji.fsf@gnu.org> <86bk4nsx6k.fsf@gnu.org> <871q588lw6.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <86o78cdkr6.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31327"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Jeremy Bryant , stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, philipk@posteo.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 08 10:11:46 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sFrAv-0007xN-O3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 10:11:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFrA7-0004dR-1I; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 04:10:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFrA5-0004dJ-Jl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 04:10:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFrA3-0004S6-Pl; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 04:10:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1717834232; x=1718439032; i=michael.albinus@gmx.de; bh=DdeIbKm2WUrOn4qovKQ7j8DrkzQ5s5ydcW98ysQiplM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=R6jI7b5lZvemPeQdvYOExn31jE8USYKjFdo2Ye2EjCOwNz3YOodOg7Nv7xzVd7dP R6EjCd9gXYlrkaMDp65F8XhwjFDuOMwg/u2IMFxVhTvihMdAI9URcADEXEOVgO+zT ews09gks+It6gOVT5GaZ137yp4bQ89qjFTMA+E8u+9yAiLMMrgnUicjHNK36jEdvz IpDoaB1s2QHJ8SXVpaBdKveWKAILoMWm299sAcLuU6eNljoLOtpbypemOr+98wwyy R9E/jrj41PdPWvU78AYlwzMcKOgDvfB292TgBvn62bG7t4IoxVxalhBWAYlOqm9v5 1VSrZc8+Ut0RWMxxzQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Original-Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([185.89.39.18]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MLi8m-1ryKGu1Tqy-00KtYG; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 10:10:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86o78cdkr6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 08 Jun 2024 09:14:05 +0300") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:P9xJi6w50s6dy0K8YbOPOzAzAdJ1voD5iUfN95hDgilm2gPIZav 89pMx+WLBqSWpFEfw5kafFRAYJom6WWHAXx2l88ZYmj9CTkS0UdIckhfNo+Lqe0vauW7JVR VjSw33dvB0maswFrWB6CZ1idjxlQsoefLmSZhWcQZtD6llMjLOD8FyGUbHw6DsunY1gN1KU FE9utiPjqzp3xHJZP4ubw== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:Qhz0zTkGQpU=;4rEeGnQoC1ISdcbZTqHqpCkK+tN oJ6DPuayF0C4jTQJ3ABRwoCtgLYK5EIg213e/d2tctzRCJ+cTFwm+7NgnomzEbwKzFLWc7nli pfe17lVKm7vOPInnuhRpVDg7Ok3TXW8uQiAFAQkJ0l14Y+rpkTGYPdUuu+tKkOg7SCBdlPrKz ZQVxrdC1RzLDka920BMgaoTnQantB7RPLXsoNdQL0l5H4x5miBDozKgyUfVzv7q3+ugRuRSg+ +2V14cpdE6BOPm7jFIV2FqcRZ12PWAG6ehGKADNtMcY/QldDM90EPgZ/xOG1Maym7oG9hYHUh sBFbsQDfIQvTmT7dYmTqt5ZGQbh1x2LP89GO9NzRgx3L/RQwawdTJnFWPKchdlU0SA+00+RHp WNgJkOCeBGRFedGGGAcxkSdCPvEcasVqCeNv7BtLzwJDIYKnf5tg9NcwheyOpB/XrPX7133Qh t9u3oelzEwjnWcirHQoQg/y2UK4+jVoXATdNX9zlMiB4Ck0NXt0lVC7EdVht0/AVXdAa7s2dV RF7A3s+Ww9IwWy0Or95NfAxHjACSCUs9kJjV0TmXiGRcHgVXipYf9nJSBVLmvwsLsPoBevXIs u1/SixjxVV7DHY0yb4CXn88y9B965QRolbV4kfGpNuryT6m800/dnfEIrCRYx4QwVP7/0ug8z oNaEKBuZIUlY0Rdr5i0XumGoh6TgN6Z2yDCeMqyQcW1VquLP/RO5RTI4RhiDT4V6YgOCmeJJp cJFEDGKoa4O1Fs6LXdfqMOTEz2A1Jx1wmf92MX0IIxHrUNNBaFbawmD1aqaizdoqrC97+XAk Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.20; envelope-from=michael.albinus@gmx.de; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319891 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > But the obvious candidates are those that are already on ELPA: Org, > Eglot, Tramp, and a few others. With those, the only aspects of > "work" to remove them from emacs.git are those which currently prevent > such a move to begin with. One aspect are regression tests. Tramp has ca 100 test cases in tramp-tests.el. I don't know whether they run out-of-the-box with the Tramp ELPA package. And it would be a big miss if they won't run by the regular "make check" of Emacs. These regression tests are an infinite source of indications, what is still missing to be fixed in Tramp. Best regards, Michael.