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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: "Kai Großjohann" <Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Insert Euro symbol
Date: 03 May 2002 05:17:22 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87elgue23x.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.91.1020502190016.27891H@is>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il> writes:
> It doesn't sound like a good idea to have yet another, 3rd 
> way of producing non-ASCII characters.  C-x 8 should be supported for 
> back compatibility, but do we really want to extend it?

Yes.

It's very convenient for people who don't use a latin-x input method
normally but want to only insert a character or two.  I use it all the
time, and I'd be very annoyed if I had to fuck around with switching
input methods just to type my occasional one character.

I didn't even know that C-x 8 is defined to insert `latin-1' characters,
I just though it was a handy package for inserting common characters
from the non-ASCII latin set.  To me having it be able to insert the
euro sign sounds like a natural and useful extension.

Of course, maybe there's a better _implementation_ (maybe along the
lines that Stefan suggested), but please don't `deprecate' the
functionality -- I really like it and use it often.

> If you agree that C-x 8 is deprecated, C-x 9 is a step in the wrong 
> direction.

I agree about this, though; it would be pretty silly to have `C-x 9'
etc., because I don't think it's natural for anyone to think that way
(even if it would be somehow convenient for the implementation, though
I doubt even that's the case).

You're right that if we simply think of C-x 8 as being `insert handy
non-ASCII characters' (as indeed I do) then there's the problem of
deciding `which characters?' especially when all of unicode becomes a
possibility.  But that's not a reason to get rid of the interface, I
think, just a reason to be judicious when extending it.

-Miles
-- 
"Most attacks seem to take place at night, during a rainstorm, uphill,
 where four map sheets join."   -- Anon. British Officer in WW I

  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-02 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-02 13:19 Insert Euro symbol Kai Großjohann
2002-05-02 13:30 ` Alan Shutko
2002-05-02 13:43   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-02 15:12     ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-05-02 15:33       ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-03 18:25   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-03 19:59     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-04 15:02       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-05  6:39         ` Werner LEMBERG
2002-05-06  6:24           ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-06 12:16             ` Werner LEMBERG
2002-05-07  4:58               ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-07  7:06                 ` Werner LEMBERG
2002-05-08 13:58                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-06  9:54           ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-06 12:09             ` Werner LEMBERG
2002-05-05 23:18         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-02 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-02 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-02 20:17   ` Miles Bader [this message]
2002-05-03  6:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-03 10:48       ` Miles Bader
2002-05-04  6:06         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-05-04 11:52           ` Miles Bader
2002-05-05  5:34           ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-05 11:52             ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-06  6:24               ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-06  9:50                 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-06 19:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-07  8:25                     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-08 13:58                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-08 15:02                         ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-09 14:59                           ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-12 12:21                             ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-13 14:18                               ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-13 14:28                                 ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-14 19:41                                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-08 13:58                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-07  9:12                     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-03  9:52   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-03 10:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-03 11:24       ` Kai Großjohann

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