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* How to get rid of Unicode?
@ 2002-12-20 20:40 A. L. Meyers
  2002-12-21 13:19 ` Kai Großjohann
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: A. L. Meyers @ 2002-12-20 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi! After struggling in vain to get my system including emacs "unicoded"
for quite some months, have decided to stop and put everything back to
8859-15 (i. e. Latin 1 + Euro).  Sooner or later I expect the *nix world
to cry out: "Unicode is now idiot-proof and simple" and have decided to
wait for that day.

Trouble is, now I need help to get everyting unicodish out of my system
and out of emacs.  Suggestions how to proceed most welcome.

Greetings,

Lucien
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* Re: How to get rid of Unicode?
  2002-12-20 20:40 How to get rid of Unicode? A. L. Meyers
@ 2002-12-21 13:19 ` Kai Großjohann
  2002-12-21 14:34   ` A. L. Meyers
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-12-21 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw)


A. L. Meyers <nospam.look@replyto.because.this.is.invalid> writes:

> Trouble is, now I need help to get everyting unicodish out of my system
> and out of emacs.  Suggestions how to proceed most welcome.

Whee.  Sounds like a chore.  You probably have a lot of UTF-8 files
lying around, converting them all is probably difficult.

But maybe you can search for the byte sequences corresponding to the
umlauts and `ß' in your whole home dir.  That should give you the files.

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* Re: How to get rid of Unicode?
  2002-12-21 13:19 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-12-21 14:34   ` A. L. Meyers
  2002-12-21 15:10     ` Ehud Karni
  2002-12-21 15:18     ` Kai Großjohann
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: A. L. Meyers @ 2002-12-21 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw)


kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes:

> A. L. Meyers <nospam.look@replyto.because.this.is.invalid> writes:
>
>> Trouble is, now I need help to get everyting unicodish out of my system
>> and out of emacs.  Suggestions how to proceed most welcome.
>
> Whee.  Sounds like a chore.  You probably have a lot of UTF-8 files
> lying around, converting them all is probably difficult.
>
> But maybe you can search for the byte sequences corresponding to the
> umlauts and `ß' in your whole home dir.  That should give you the files.

I'm less worried about the files but more concerned about the system.
AFAICS utf-8 doesn't really work on text consoles anyway.  But I'm a
text console fan, more precisely a frame-buffer text console fan.  No
one seems to have got multibyte text mode fonts available.

Now I have to manually set the mule screen encoding to latin-1 in order
to see that great esstset in Grossjohann, then tell bbdb to accept A\237
as well and so on.  More work, less productivity.  Me likes simple and
stupid.  Even have doubts whether latin-9 will really work smoothly
without hiccups.  My query is how e. g. to re-setup emacs to just work
with say latin-9 languages with a maximum of user laziness. :-)

Lucien
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* Re: How to get rid of Unicode?
  2002-12-21 14:34   ` A. L. Meyers
@ 2002-12-21 15:10     ` Ehud Karni
  2002-12-21 15:18     ` Kai Großjohann
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ehud Karni @ 2002-12-21 15:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: kai.grossjohann

On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:34:08 +0100, A. L. Meyers wrote:
> 
> I'm less worried about the files but more concerned about the system.
> AFAICS utf-8 doesn't really work on text consoles anyway.  But I'm a
> text console fan, more precisely a frame-buffer text console fan.  No
> one seems to have got multibyte text mode fonts available.

To convert the files from Unicode to ISO-8859-15 use iconv
(do `iconv --help'  and `iconv --list' for more information).

> Now I have to manually set the mule screen encoding to latin-1 in order
> to see that great esstset in Grossjohann, then tell bbdb to accept A\237
> as well and so on.  More work, less productivity.  Me likes simple and
> stupid.  Even have doubts whether latin-9 will really work smoothly
> without hiccups.  My query is how e. g. to re-setup emacs to just work
> with say latin-9 languages with a maximum of user laziness. :-)

You can set the default coding system like this:
    (add-to-list 'file-coding-system-alist '("" iso-8859-15))
Check your current `file-coding-system-alist' before doing this.

Ehud.


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* Re: How to get rid of Unicode?
  2002-12-21 14:34   ` A. L. Meyers
  2002-12-21 15:10     ` Ehud Karni
@ 2002-12-21 15:18     ` Kai Großjohann
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-12-21 15:18 UTC (permalink / raw)


A. L. Meyers <nospam.look@replyto.because.this.is.invalid> writes:

> Now I have to manually set the mule screen encoding to latin-1 in order
> to see that great esstset in Grossjohann, then tell bbdb to accept A\237
> as well and so on.  More work, less productivity.  Me likes simple and
> stupid.  Even have doubts whether latin-9 will really work smoothly
> without hiccups.  My query is how e. g. to re-setup emacs to just work
> with say latin-9 languages with a maximum of user laziness. :-)

BBDB uses the bbdb-file-coding-system.  I think it's not a good idea.
Dave Love has proposed patches to change this, but maybe they haven't
been accepted yet.  Or maybe they have.  I'm not sure.

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