From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GTK emacs (and access to GTK) Date: 02 Nov 2004 22:41:31 +0000 Message-ID: <87ekjb6fhg.fsf@tapsellferrier.co.uk> References: <87wtx45rag.fsf_-_@tapsellferrier.co.uk> <41880A02.6030606@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099435670 18306 80.91.229.6 (2 Nov 2004 22:47:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 22:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 02 23:47:36 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CP7R9-0001hZ-00 for ; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 23:47:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CP7ZD-0005tq-Lu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:55:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CP7Yp-0005nH-3S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:55:31 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CP7Yo-0005mt-EU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:55:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CP7Yo-0005mp-AT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:55:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.168.156.78] (helo=owls-tree.tapsellferrier.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1CP7QU-0005En-9J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:46:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.168.156.71] (helo=kanga ident=Debian-exim) by owls-tree.tapsellferrier.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30 #1 (Debian)) id 1CP7J4-0006AS-Cx; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 22:39:14 +0000 Original-Received: from nferrier by kanga with local (Exim 4.30 #1 (Debian)) id 1CP7LI-0000hr-Ea; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 22:41:32 +0000 Original-To: "Jan D." In-Reply-To: <41880A02.6030606@swipnet.se> Original-Lines: 36 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29345 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29345 "Jan D." writes: > > A related question: what are the views about allowing Emacs to create > > GTK objects directly? > > > > I know it is generally frowned upon to export native window system > > primitives into Emacs but because GTK is a GNU lib maybe there could > > be an exception. > > > > William Perry already wrote some code for XEmacs which could maybe > > serve as a guide? > > > > http://www.cs.indiana.edu/elisp/gui-xemacs/ > > I haven't looked at that code, so I can't say how much effort there is to do > this. It is something for the future, and has some advantages. For example, > Emacs could make its own file dialog where things like tramp works. I think it would improve usability for newbies because things like configuration buffers could be made to appear (by preference) as GTK dialogs. As you say: things like tramp and even search and replace, could have GTK facades. Of course, no one here would use them. But I know a lot of programmers who are just too scared to learn emacs, if they could fool themselves into thinking it was just an editor they might take the plunge. /8-> I'd be interested in helping hacking on this if someone else led the effort. Nic