From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dieter Wilhelm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: beamer, pdflatex and auctex Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:26:39 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <87ejt83qb4.fsf@hans.local.net> References: <85vemtxh7m.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85fydpkyvx.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85lkngk8ql.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1161034061 22888 80.91.229.2 (16 Oct 2006 21:27:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 16 23:27:39 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZZzk-0001Kj-7t for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:27:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZZzi-0006vT-1S for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:27:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GZZz5-0006MG-CJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:26:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GZZz4-0006Jq-9A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:26:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZZz4-0006JS-3r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:26:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.227.126.187] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GZa8F-0001eO-Fe; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:36:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.167.34.30] (helo=duenenhof-wilhelm.de) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML21M-1GZZyz0Eos-0002mV; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:26:49 +0200 Original-Received: by duenenhof-wilhelm.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AC2BD755C6; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:26:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: <85lkngk8ql.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Mon\, 16 Oct 2006 09\:41\:54 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:d7ab225b98a136e1c2910381f940ecb9 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:38083 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: >>> >>> More probably stone old. >> >> You know it the best the Latest version is 11.83, 11.14 seems to be >> from 2004. > > 11.14 was released in 2002. Its _successor_ release 11.50 is from > 2004. Thanks, I just had a lazy look at file creation/change dates at some ftp directory. But this was sufficient for convincing me that this version is too old anyway. >> An innocent question: Is AUCTeX too big to be included into the >> standard Emacs installation? > > It would require about two dozen past contributors to be found and > persuaded to assign their copyright to the FSF. All current > contributors and the past maintainers have already done this (we > reached that state about a month ago), but it will likely take quite a > bit of time and luck to finish this process. Another really innocent question: I assume that all former contributors have put their code already under the GPL. Why is this not sufficient for including their work in the official Emacs installation, why must they even give up their copyright? They already stated that their code can be reused by everyone, couldn't it? Understand me right, I'm not against assigning code to the FSF, quite the opposite but what puzzles me is why the usage of GPL code could be somehow degrading or harmful for the FSF and Emacs in particular. -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Darmstadt, Germany