From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dieter Wilhelm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Misunderstanding (Re: Emacs-devel Digest, Vol 44, Issue 67) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:48:24 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <87ejfxeauv.fsf@debby.local.net> References: <20071010222633.B8E0A73931@grelber.thyrsus.com> <20071010231818.GD1955@thyrsus.com> <85ve9etr2o.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20071011020052.GA3096@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1192391202 13443 80.91.229.12 (14 Oct 2007 19:46:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:46:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 14 21:46:32 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ih9PN-0007Q0-IO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:45:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ih9PH-0000Im-0E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:45:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ih9PE-0000Gb-2K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:45:44 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ih9PB-0000CA-T5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:45:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ih9PB-0000C2-OE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:45:41 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.177]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ih9P7-0000zv-PK; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:45:38 -0400 Original-Received: from debby.local.net (drms-590c7e99.pool.einsundeins.de [89.12.126.153]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML31I-1Ih9P31wqo-00083L; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:45:33 +0200 Original-Received: from dieter by debby.local.net with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ih9Ro-0001ES-KN; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:48:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20071011020052.GA3096@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Wed\, 10 Oct 2007 22\:00\:52 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/1aqX9uY5rxtn4ufNpu4Lm1S3dFCqPG8Ttdhw o3LY80EkExoTZe23G0VIjFPyeGCT53RuxTJpFyNnpARCjTROik BXcKcqtn2l4b8pvBJ8L0HRxUwflAXgf X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:80862 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > The looks connection, BTW, comes from the fact that the two most > important beauty/handsomeness traits -- good skin and feature symmetry > -- are indicators of a robust immune system. In fact, that's *why* > beauty is sexually important. And immune-system function is probably > *more* closely connected to creativity and genius than most other > aspects of physical health; the relevant tissue systems are closely > related, both being elaborations of the embryonic ectoderm. This is only a part of the whole picture, otherwise more individuals of humankind would have become more beautiful and intelligent at the same time. Fortunately for, I maintain, most of us beauty and intelligence are not all-important for reproduction. For example, one anomaly might be that good/healthy looking men tend to leave more often their mating partner and it might be advantageous even for beautiful women to procreate and have a lasting relationship with an uglier one (Mr Nice Guy maybe) to heighten the chances to rear their offspring to sexual maturity. Hmmm, thinking of it, when such a female is a bit unfaithful now and then, her offspring might carry better genes and chances. This is, of course, only a theoretical thought. All in all, it remains interesting and a trifle more complicated... Uppps, what has this to do with Emacs? -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Darmstadt, Germany