From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the new startup and scratch buffer Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:40:11 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87ejafd3xc.fsf@jurta.org> References: <47B319AD.3030804@alice.it> <87zlu4oi48.fsf@bar.jrock.us> <47B3320C.8060800@alice.it> <87ve4ip7g1.fsf@bar.jrock.us> <873arcvg86.fsf@jurta.org> <87hcfrid17.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87ablhu96w.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205362697 29911 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2008 22:58:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:58:17 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 12 23:58:45 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZZuG-0005fy-Cs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:58:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZZth-0008Jg-MW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:58:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZZst-0007NR-PW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:57:19 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZZsp-0007Hw-T9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:57:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZZsp-0007Hq-QN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:57:15 -0400 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZZsp-0001s9-D8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:57:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JZZsm-0005i1-Hm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:57:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: ("Johan =?utf-8?Q?Bockg=C3=A5rd=22's?= message of "Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:01:58 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: b36477657b07eb27dc67b07df918f397 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2396 [Mar 12 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 11 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92329 Archived-At: >> The recent patch was installed after complaints from users that even >> when initial-scratch-message is non-nil the scratch buffer is still >> empty. > > I agree that `inhibit-startup-screen' should not disable the scratch > message, but I think that emacs-quick-startup (-Q) should. (After your > patch it doesn't.) Actually, this initial scratch message serves as a quick visual reminder for the user that the current buffer is the scratch buffer (that doesn't save its content) even when Emacs is stared with `emacs -Q'. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/