From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lost antialias? Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:43:39 -0400 Message-ID: <87ej6rpqh0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <485230EB.9070203@alice.it> <48546807.8010406@alice.it> <87abhmgmko.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87abhkndo9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87skv7d6sa.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87lk0z1w3e.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214009319 22210 80.91.229.12 (21 Jun 2008 00:48:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: angelo.graziosi@alice.it, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Kenichi Handa To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 21 02:49:23 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K9rIA-00041v-PV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:49:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33697 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9rHL-00011z-Qp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:48:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9rHI-00011D-C6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:48:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9rHE-0000xR-RD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:48:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37516 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9rHE-0000xE-NM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:48:24 -0400 Original-Received: from cyd.mit.edu ([18.115.2.24]:60783) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K9rHB-00025e-0v; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:48:21 -0400 Original-Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 735DF4E47D; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:43:39 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87lk0z1w3e.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:16:05 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99570 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > Chong Yidong writes: >> How about treating "Helv" and "Courier" specially in >> ffont_resolve_generic_family, similar to "Sans" and "Mono"? > > Why don't we just change the default face definitions to something more > appropriate on a modern system? That could work too. How about combining the defface redefinition with a change to face-font-family-alternatives so that this will work on Windows and Mac? (I'm not sure what the appropriate fonts are for those platforms, though.) (defface fixed-pitch '((t :family "Monospace")) "The basic fixed-pitch face." :group 'basic-faces) (defcustom face-font-family-alternatives '(("Monospace" "DejaVu Sans Mono" [WINDOWS AND MAC FONTS] "fixed") ....)) What font should we use for variable-pitch? Bitstream Vera Sans? > Maybe it would be also useful to support something like web-browsers > use, where you could specify a "family" of "Dejavu Sans,Helvetica,Sans", > and it would split the list at the commas and use the first one it could > find. That could be useful, if Handa (or someone else) wants to implement it. Otherwise, I guess it's not crucial.