From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Johannes Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:22:08 +0200 Message-ID: <87ej5oz4pb.fsf@saeurebad.de> References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807111217m66d6cf4el777c197c107ce034@mail.gmail.com> <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <87zloggji9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878wvxxkn6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216585380 12705 80.91.229.12 (20 Jul 2008 20:23:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, lord@emf.net, drobinow@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 20 22:23:47 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KKfRb-0005iF-63 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:23:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38000 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KKfQh-0004sk-Ss for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:22:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KKfQc-0004sU-S5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:22:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KKfQb-0004sE-VY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:22:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34375 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KKfQb-0004sB-QV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:22:45 -0400 Original-Received: from saeurebad.de ([85.214.36.134]:60308) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KKfQU-0006EN-AL; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:22:38 -0400 Original-Received: by saeurebad.de (Postfix, from userid 107) id D03072F0048; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:22:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (217-68-166-249.dynamic.primacom.net [217.68.166.249]) by saeurebad.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFB62F0006; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:22:35 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:21:20 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.1.3 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101028 Archived-At: Richard M Stallman writes: > > That is good news, but the general problem remains > > as far as I know. Has there been a general move towards > > supporting the GNU configure and build specs? > > As far as I know (I don't hack on X, I just read the mailing list), the > entire build infrastructure was replaced, and you can now do > "./configure ...; make" etc., and things work in the normal GNU > style. > > We are miscommunicating. As regards X itself, I took for granted that > that is what you meant. > > My question concerns looking beyond X to the free software community > as a whole. Has there been a broader move towords supporting the GNU > configure and build specs? Maybe you heard the term `autohell' once? People tend to forget about political issues when they are just frustrated with the software. Hannes