From: Phil Hagelberg <phil@hagelb.org>
To: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
Cc: Stephen Eilert <spedrosa@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Package Management
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:14:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ej589vku.fsf@hagelb.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3ej58xryk.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> (Tom Tromey's message of "Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:58:59 -0600")
Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com> writes:
> Stephen> Does anyone see a major flaw in a system like that? Or is it
> Stephen> a matter of "show me the code and I'll comment"? ELPA could
> Stephen> be the starting point.
>
> There was a discussion a while ago on this list. RMS wanted to
> restrict the available packages to those which had been assigned to
> the FSF, but I did not agree with that.
>
> I would reconsider my position if the Emacs maintainers were
> interested -- I think it would be useful to Emacs users if there were
> a simple, standard way to install and activate packages.
>
> However, this would still not help you directly, because I think some
> of the packages you want are not assigned. So, you would have to
> solve that problem as well.
As the original author of rinari, I can see a place for packages in such
a system that are not part of Emacs, but still have their copyright
assigned to the FSF. I have a number of elisp packages that are not
candidates for inclusion in Emacs (for a number of reasons, including
rapid change rate, usage of the CL library, or just limited appeal), and
I would be glad to assign copyright over if it meant that they could be
distributed via a built-in package manager.
This would make them much, much easier to install and try out, which I
think is a big win for the overall Elisp ecosystem. People are more
likely to get interested and contribute if you lower the barrier to
trying new things.
It seems the debate so far has been held in terms of "packaging system"
vs "don't make it too easy to install non-FSF-copyrighted code", but I
don't think the two need to be mutually exclusive.
-Phil
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-01 23:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-01 21:27 Emacs Package Management Stephen Eilert
2008-08-01 22:58 ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-01 23:14 ` Phil Hagelberg [this message]
2008-08-01 23:25 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-02 0:13 ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-03 1:33 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-03 18:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-04 15:33 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-04 19:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-05 8:04 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-05 13:09 ` Stephen Eilert
2008-08-05 14:39 ` Paul R
2008-08-06 3:35 ` Richard M. Stallman
2009-09-16 22:36 ` Stephen Eilert
2009-09-17 1:44 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 13:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17 14:26 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 14:58 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-28 21:13 ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-28 21:48 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-28 21:54 ` Chong Yidong
2009-09-28 22:30 ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-29 11:31 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-29 19:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-29 19:41 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-30 1:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-30 2:07 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-30 4:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-30 20:18 ` Tom Tromey
2009-10-01 5:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-02 1:58 ` Stephen Eilert
2008-08-02 3:36 ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-02 17:30 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-08-12 4:10 ` Thomas Lord
2009-09-12 22:38 ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-12 23:30 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-13 16:40 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-14 9:07 ` joakim
2009-09-14 9:26 ` David Kastrup
2009-09-15 7:16 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15 8:30 ` Miles Bader
2009-09-15 18:15 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15 18:58 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-15 22:08 ` Miles Bader
2009-09-16 15:16 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-16 18:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17 1:05 ` Geoff Gole
2009-09-17 19:50 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15 18:55 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 6:37 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-17 8:28 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17 8:37 ` joakim
2009-09-17 8:48 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-17 9:31 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17 10:43 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-17 11:50 ` Rupert Swarbrick
2009-09-19 2:40 ` Bob Rogers
2009-09-19 12:10 ` Rupert Swarbrick
2009-09-17 14:24 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 19:22 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17 15:04 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-17 13:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17 14:21 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-13 17:00 ` Eric Schulte
2008-08-02 14:46 ` Paul R
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