From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Johannes Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:05:27 +0200 Message-ID: <87ej4t1jk8.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> References: <663766.3592561218546669709.JavaMail.www@wwinf4615> <87bpzy44b2.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218611172 25759 80.91.229.12 (13 Aug 2008 07:06:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, alinsoar@voila.fr To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 13 09:07:03 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KTARj-0004w5-24 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:07:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50941 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTAQm-0005oe-Nn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:06:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTAQi-0005oP-Rv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:06:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTAQh-0005nV-Rv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:06:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41904 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTAQh-0005nC-MF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:05:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:42912) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTAQc-0001la-4b; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:05:54 -0400 Original-Received: from saeurebad.de ([85.214.36.134]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTAQb-0000kn-4z; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:05:53 -0400 Original-Received: by saeurebad.de (Postfix, from userid 107) id B34AF2F00CA; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:05:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (83-221-69-159.dynamic.primacom.net [83.221.69.159]) by saeurebad.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3617C2F00C4; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:05:50 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:26:50 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000004, version=1.1.3 X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102397 Archived-At: Hi, "Richard M. Stallman" writes: > >From my experience, I don't know anyone personally(!) who has found his > way around in Linux and switched back to Windows after it. > > I do not doubt your experience, but please note that the system they > switched to is not Linux. Linux is a kernel, and has no commands or > user interface for them to find their way around in. The system > you are thinking of is the GNU operating system, which we launched > in 1984 for the sake of freedom. > > See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/the-gnu-project.html for the history > of GNU and Linux. Your correction is appropriate. I am sorry. Yes, I really meant the GNU system as users mostly don't even get to see the kernel anyway. Hannes