From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tyler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:42:44 -0300 Message-ID: <87ej3g2tob.fsf@blackbart.sedgenet> References: <873ajzwoqu.fsf@kobe.laptop> <9bceaf08-4a29-4593-be31-13e3b459763d@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <85myi4u5vw.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1221828186 12047 80.91.229.12 (19 Sep 2008 12:43:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:43:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 19 14:44:02 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KgfL7-0005ju-VM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:44:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50065 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KgfK6-0001LS-9l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:42:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KgfJn-0001LN-KF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:42:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KgfJm-0001Km-3q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:42:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60753 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KgfJl-0001KY-Te for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:42:37 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:48255 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KgfJl-0005yu-Dv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:42:37 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KgfJg-00053v-R5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:42:33 +0000 Original-Received: from hlfxns0149w-142177091035.ns.aliant.net ([142.177.91.35]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:42:32 +0000 Original-Received: from tyler.smith by hlfxns0149w-142177091035.ns.aliant.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:42:32 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: hlfxns0149w-142177091035.ns.aliant.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:krfP5cWFHb3Ht6oGFgyV+hgWM2A= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57790 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > tyler writes: > >> Xah Lee writes: >> >>> «I think the existance of the lisp scratch buffer is one of the major >>> usability problem of emacs that prevents emacs from being widely >>> adopted by most text editing audience.» >> >> Ironically, I just used the scratch buffer as the repository for the >> text of your previous message. rot13-region doesn't work in the >> read-only gnus buffers, so I needed to transfer it to a different >> buffer. > > C-c C-r works in gnus. Which does not mean that alternative ways are a > bad idea. That combination is not defined for me in gnus, but it did lead me to discover toggle-rot13-mode, which I *will* now bind to C-c C-r. Thanks! Tyler -- Support standardized open formats and control your own data - Reject Microsoft OOXML http://noooxml.org