[Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[leandro noferini]

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Ciao a tutti,

eamcs 23 from  debian unstable on terminal does  not show correctly euro
sign showing instead something like a little "star".

The other characters are shown correctly.

What could I check?

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Re: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 30.09.2009 um 22:30 schrieb leandro noferini:

> What could I check?


Environment variables like LANG or LC_CTYPE or LC_ALL. Make them  
based on ISO Latin-9/ISO 8859-15 or Unicode (UTF-8).

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Re: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[Joost Kremers]

leandro noferini wrote:
> eamcs 23 from  debian unstable on terminal does  not show correctly euro
> sign showing instead something like a little "star".
>
> The other characters are shown correctly.
>
> What could I check?

the font used by your terminal. and perhaps your locale settings.


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Re: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[Kevin Rodgers]

Joost Kremers wrote:
> leandro noferini wrote:
>> eamcs 23 from  debian unstable on terminal does  not show correctly euro
>> sign showing instead something like a little "star".
>>
>> The other characters are shown correctly.
>>
>> What could I check?
> 
> the font used by your terminal. and perhaps your locale settings.

Put point before the euro sign and type `C-u C-x =' to see the font
used to display it.

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Re: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[leandro noferini]

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Kevin Rodgers ha scritto:


[...]

> Put point before the euro sign and type `C-u C-x =' to see the font
> used to display it.

        character: € (8364, #o20254, #x20ac)
preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
       code point: 0x20AC
           syntax: _ 	which means: symbol
         category: .:Base, c:Chinese, h:Korean, j:Japanese
      buffer code: #xE2 #x82 #xAC
        file code: #xE2 #x82 #xAC (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix)
          display: by display table entry [?¤] (see below)

The display table entry is displayed by these terminal codes:
¤ #xC2 #xA4

Character code properties: customize what to show
  name: EURO SIGN
  general-category: Sc (Symbol, Currency)

There are text properties here:
  fontified            t

[back]

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Re: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 01.10.2009 um 10:12 schrieb leandro noferini:

> The display table entry is displayed by these terminal codes:
> ¤ #xC2 #xA4


Obviously you're using something that converts EURO SIGN (at U+20AC)  
to CURRENCY SIGN (at U+00A4). Launch GNU Emacs with the option -Q and  
see whether it can display EURO SIGN without your and your system's  
customisation (that "display table") correctly.

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Re: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[leandro noferini]

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Peter Dyballa ha scritto:


[...]

> > The display table entry is displayed by these terminal codes:
> > ¤ #xC2 #xA4
> 
> 
> Obviously you're using something that converts EURO SIGN (at U+20AC)
> to CURRENCY SIGN (at U+00A4). Launch GNU Emacs with the option -Q and
> see whether it can display EURO SIGN without your and your system's
> customisation (that "display table") correctly.

Yes,  it  works correctly  showing  the euro  sign:  what  could be  the
problem?

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Re: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 01.10.2009 um 16:05 schrieb leandro noferini:

> Yes,  it  works correctly  showing  the euro  sign:  what  could  
> be  the
> problem?


As statement in your system's or your own init file. By launching GNU  
Emacs with -q you can check, whether it's the system's one: if you  
still see the €, then it's not the system's init file which converts  
it to ¤. I already gave you a hint: "display table." I don't use any,  
so I can see € and ¤.

If this does not help, bisecting can. It's a method of commenting one  
half of your init file and launching GNU Emacs. When the error is  
gone, then it's in the commented section. Otherwise it's in the not  
yet commented section. Now take care of the culprit section and  
divide it. And so on, until you've located the guilty line.

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are different.

Re: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[leandro noferini]

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Peter Dyballa ha scritto:

> > Yes, it works correctly showing the euro sign: what could be the
> > problem?
> 
> 
> As statement in your system's or your own init file. By launching GNU
> Emacs with -q you can check, whether it's the system's one: if you
> still see the €, then it's not the system's init file which converts
> it to ¤.

Running emacs with -q option I can see the euro sign correctly.

> I already gave you a hint: "display table." I don't use any, so I can
> see € and ¤.

I don't use anything like "display table".

For emacs22 I used these lines to show characters from utf:

;; (setq-default enable-multibyte-characters t)
;; (setq locale-coding-system 'utf-8)
;; (set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8)
;; (set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8)
;; (set-selection-coding-system 'utf-8)
;; (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8)
;; (set-language-environment 'UTF-8)

but enabling or not makes no difference.

Also, in my .emacs I cant see anything else about coding system.

> If this does not help, bisecting can. It's a method of commenting one
> half of your init file and launching GNU Emacs. When the error is
> gone, then it's in the commented section. Otherwise it's in the not
> yet commented section. Now take care of the culprit section and
> divide it. And so on, until you've located the guilty line.

I will try bisecting....


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Solved (was: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign)

[leandro noferini]

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Ciao a tutti,

resolved removing the variable

latin1-display

that was set up in ancient version?

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Re: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 03.10.2009 um 08:58 schrieb leandro noferini:

> For emacs22 I used these lines to show characters from utf:
>
> ;; (setq-default enable-multibyte-characters t)
> ;; (setq locale-coding-system 'utf-8)
> ;; (set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8)
> ;; (set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8)
> ;; (set-selection-coding-system 'utf-8)
> ;; (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8)
> ;; (set-language-environment 'UTF-8)

In GNU Emacs 23 the first line is obsolete, and I think the last one  
as well. The last but one line sets a preference and can be useful.  
The other lines can help to solve problems, in case there are any.

The environment variable LC_CTYPE (or LC_ALL) sets how GNU Emacs  
handles the default encoding.

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always worked for me.
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Re: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[David Combs]

In article <mailman.7846.1254409723.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
Peter Dyballa  <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> wrote:
...
>
>If this does not help, bisecting can. It's a method of commenting one  
>half of your init file and launching GNU Emacs. When the error is  
>gone, then it's in the commented section. Otherwise it's in the not  
>yet commented section. Now take care of the culprit section and  
>divide it. And so on, until you've located the guilty line.

Maybe someone good with elisp, and for the good of us all,
could automate this bisection -- eg, not splitting defuns, etc.

AND even recursively, since I imagine that lots of .emacs-files
do a load-file on a 2nd-level ".emacs".

And maybe even then run emacs, with provided user-input!


This bisection-scheme -- I imagine we all use it -- sure involves
a lot of work (grunt-work)!



More on that "recursive" idea:  when the single-level bisection
homes in on the load-file as the problem, then a way (by hand,
I guess) to say "ok, bisection.{c,sh,...}, let's do it again,
but this time don't start bisecting until you get to that
load-library (or enter that file?)"?

(in the unfortunate situation that the "green shoots" they're
saying they see in this economy turn brown and die, and someone
here thus thereafter ends up with time on his/her hands, maybe then?) 


David

Re: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[Andreas Politz]

dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) writes:

> In article <mailman.7846.1254409723.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
> Peter Dyballa  <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> wrote:
> ...
>>
>>If this does not help, bisecting can. It's a method of commenting one  
>>half of your init file and launching GNU Emacs. When the error is  
>>gone, then it's in the commented section. Otherwise it's in the not  
>>yet commented section. Now take care of the culprit section and  
>>divide it. And so on, until you've located the guilty line.
>
> Maybe someone good with elisp, and for the good of us all,
> could automate this bisection -- eg, not splitting defuns, etc.
>


Bisection is only useful by hand, otherwise it doesn't
matter and a sequential eval-test-loop is just fine.
Something like this.

(defun disect(&optional buffer pred)
  "Eval sexps in BUFFER until some condition is met.
If PRED is nil stop when an error occurs, otherwise stop when
PRED returns a non-nil value.

PRED must be side-effect free, e.g. not move point."
  (interactive
   (list (read-buffer "Disect: "
                      (current-buffer) t)
         (eval (read
                (read-string
                 "Predicate (default: check for errors): "
                 nil nil "nil")))))
  (let (result)
    (with-current-buffer (or buffer (current-buffer))
      (goto-char 1)
      (check-parens)
      (while (and (not (eobp))
                  (not result))
        (condition-case err
            (eval (read (current-buffer)))
          (error (unless pred
                   (setq result err))))
        (and pred
             (setq result
                   (funcall pred)))))
    (if (null result)
        (message "Nothing to report")
      (if (null pred)
          (message "Error here: %s" result)
        (message "Predicate fulfilled here")))))


-ap

Re: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: leandro noferini <lnoferin-MANISUDICIE@cybervalley.org>
> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:30:05 +0200
> 
> eamcs 23 from  debian unstable on terminal does  not show correctly euro
> sign showing instead something like a little "star".
> 
> The other characters are shown correctly.
> 
> What could I check?

Type "M-: (terminal-coding-system) RET" and see what it displays.

Re: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[leandro noferini]

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Eli Zaretskii ha scritto:

> Type "M-: (terminal-coding-system) RET" and see what it displays.

utf-8-unix

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Re: [Emacs 23] Does not show euro sign

[leandro noferini]

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Peter Dyballa ha scritto:


[...]

> > What could I check?
> 
> 
> Environment variables like LANG or LC_CTYPE or LC_ALL. Make them based
> on ISO Latin-9/ISO 8859-15 or Unicode (UTF-8).

I set only LANG variable:

LANG=it_IT.UTF-8

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