From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: faster unicode character name completion Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 07:38:33 +0900 Message-ID: <87einaqs9i.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <87einfbxdw.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fx7r68s4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259966384 9411 80.91.229.12 (4 Dec 2009 22:39:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:39:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Kenichi Handa To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 04 23:39:37 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NGgoJ-0005fw-Jt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:39:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42660 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NGgoJ-0000XJ-4E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:39:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NGgnW-00081b-EZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:38:46 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NGgnR-0007u7-HY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:38:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60499 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NGgnR-0007ts-AX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:38:41 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:33304) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NGgnO-0004AG-Uy; Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:38:39 -0500 Original-Received: from 218.231.212.166.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.212.166] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1NGgnK-0007iZ-3k; Sat, 05 Dec 2009 07:38:34 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 63C9BDF8B; Sat, 5 Dec 2009 07:38:33 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:07:57 -0500") Original-Lines: 22 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:118280 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> The drawback of the new code is that one can see only the >> list of the first words of character names in the completion >> buffer at once by C-x 8 RET TAB, instead of all of the >> unicode character names. > > That's a pretty serious drawback as it prevents uses such as > C-x 8 RET *arro TAB. If so, I think this change is unacceptable -- the only sane way to search for characters in huge unicode name space with the existing completion code is to use "*". Because of the way unicode characters named, using large numbers of "noise" words, it's often surprisingly hard to remember the true name of a character, much less find it given a vague idea, if one is required to type the name in order... -Miles -- Year, n. A period of three hundred and sixty-five disappointments.