From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Native scrollbars?
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:26:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eikpjjp3.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4B76ABE1.7000904@swipnet.se
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Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> writes:
> David Kastrup skrev:
>> Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> writes:
>>
>>> David Kastrup skrev:
>>>
>>>> Toolkit native scrollbars are the default with Emacs. They don't annoy
>>>> a lot of users apparently. Probably also because the geek demographic
>>>> of Emacs is different from that of XEmacs.
>>>>
>>> IMHO, the XEmacs Lucid scroll bars look much better than Emacs native
>>> scrollbars. I think that may be a factor also.
>>
>> I was of the opinion that both used the same code (Lucid), so it would
>> probably just be a matter of the default settings.
>>
>> Personally, I use
>>
>> (setq-default scroll-bar-width 15)
>>
>
> I don't think I have any settings that affects this. I attach a screen
> shot of lucid scroll bars in XEmacs (left) and Emacs (right). The
> difference is apparent. It could possibly be fixed by some X resource
> setting, I haven't tried.
>
> Anyway, the Emacs native scroll bar isn't based on Lucid, and looks
> much worse.
Well, mine looks like
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and that's without-toolkit-scroll-bars. So I was mistaken about this
using the Lucid code. Incidentally, the scroll bar width of the
minibuffer appears unaffected from my settings, and this might be a
bug. My screen might look a bit prettier otherwise.
So now I don't think it is an option to compile with GTK+ overall while
using Lucid scrollbars. Sorry for the confusion.
I'm fine with the resulting ugliness in the Emacs-native scrollbars:
using Gtk+ for the rest certainly gives a much nicer appearance overall
than using either Athena Widgets or Lucid for everything.
--
David Kastrup
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-13 14:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-30 13:34 visible-bell patch for Mac OS X Filipe Cabecinhas
2010-01-31 3:34 ` Chong Yidong
2010-02-01 0:41 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-02-01 15:56 ` Chong Yidong
2010-02-01 23:33 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-02-02 1:40 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-02-02 1:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-02-02 8:47 ` Leo
2010-02-13 1:30 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-02-13 1:51 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-02-13 3:54 ` Native scrollbars? [was: visible-bell patch for Mac OS X] Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-13 5:45 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-02-13 6:45 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-02-13 7:32 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-02-13 13:32 ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-13 9:00 ` Native scrollbars? David Kastrup
2010-02-13 10:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-13 12:23 ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-13 12:46 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-13 13:40 ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-13 14:26 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2010-02-13 13:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-13 6:45 ` visible-bell patch for Mac OS X YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-02-13 7:01 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-02-13 7:54 ` Jan Djärv
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