Re: org-toodledo : sycning org-mode and Toodledo

Re: org-toodledo : sycning org-mode and Toodledo

[Giovanni Ridolfi]

(sorry for the double post, I forgot to cc: the list)

Carsten Dominik on Wed, 12 May 2010 15:17:37 +0200
wrote:
> On May 12, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Christopher Long wrote:
>> 
>> I've forked an annotated version [of R Takaishi's org-toodledo ]
>> with translations from the Japanese into English at github and have
>> begun working my way through it:
>> http://github.com/stophlong/repos

> Hi Christopher,
> this looks like a useful thing to do.  Please consider to eventually
> make this a contributed package, and let me know if I can help.


Just for information:

Two days ago (May 16th, 2010 ) Sacha Chua published a blog post with 
her contribution to org-toodledo.el - Toodledo integration for Emacs Org mode

http://sachachua.com/wp/2010/05/org-toodledo/

The code is available also on GitHub at http://github.com/sachac/org-toodledo

Perhaps it is worth to look at it.

Giovanni

Re: org-toodledo : sycning org-mode and Toodledo

[Sven Bretfeld]

Hi Giovanni and all others

Giovanni Ridolfi <giovanni.ridolfi@yahoo.it> writes:

> Just for information:
>
> Two days ago (May 16th, 2010 ) Sacha Chua published a blog post with
> her contribution to org-toodledo.el - Toodledo integration for Emacs
> Org mode
>
> http://sachachua.com/wp/2010/05/org-toodledo/
>
> The code is available also on GitHub at
> http://github.com/sachac/org-toodledo
>
> Perhaps it is worth to look at it.

Yes it definitely is. I'm playing with it at the moment. There are also
some Toodledo clients available for Android.

Here are some problems I encountered:

1. _Tags are ignored._ 

   Toodledo discriminates between Contexts and Tags. The preamble of
   org-toodledo.el states that both are mapped to what is called tags in
   orgmode (e.g. :@HOME:). But Toodledo-tags are ignored in the
   sync-process (both ways), while contexts are working fine.

2. _Start Dates are ignored._

   Toodledo's Start Dates should be mapped to SCHEDULED in orgmode
   according to the preamble. This is also not working for me. DEADLINE
   (Due Date) is working fine.

3. _Diacritics_

   German (and probably other) umlauts break the upload. A task like
   ** TODO Test für Uploads
   ends up like "Test f" in Toodledo. Downloading similar entries end up in
   the wrong encoding in orgmode.

4. _Time_

   Using the Due Time field (instead of Due Date) in Toodledo breaks the
   sync process: "Wrong type argument: stringp nil".

5. _Appointments?_

   Is there any way to use normal active timestamps? Toodledo has no
   calender nor a function for appointments. It would be nice to use
   Toodledo to at least capture appointments. I've tried to
   manually add a timestamp like <2010-05-27 11:00> to the headline or
   the textfield, but that doesn't work due to the encoding problem
   mentioned above: The < character will be changed during the sync
   process. 

Greetings,

Sven

Re: org-toodledo : sycning org-mode and Toodledo

[Mark Elston]

Sven,

I have been playing with this today as well and can't get DEADLINES
to work.  How did you do it?  When I set a deadline in org and sync
it doesn't show up in Toodledo.

In fact, I set a Start Date in Toodledo and did an update and
my Scheduled date in org went away.


Mark

On 5/20/2010 2:18 AM, Sven Bretfeld wrote:
> Hi Giovanni and all others
>
> Giovanni Ridolfi<giovanni.ridolfi@yahoo.it>  writes:
>
>> Just for information:
>>
>> Two days ago (May 16th, 2010 ) Sacha Chua published a blog post with
>> her contribution to org-toodledo.el - Toodledo integration for Emacs
>> Org mode
>>
>> http://sachachua.com/wp/2010/05/org-toodledo/
>>
>> The code is available also on GitHub at
>> http://github.com/sachac/org-toodledo
>>
>> Perhaps it is worth to look at it.
>
> Yes it definitely is. I'm playing with it at the moment. There are also
> some Toodledo clients available for Android.
>
> Here are some problems I encountered:
>
> 1. _Tags are ignored._
>
>     Toodledo discriminates between Contexts and Tags. The preamble of
>     org-toodledo.el states that both are mapped to what is called tags in
>     orgmode (e.g. :@HOME:). But Toodledo-tags are ignored in the
>     sync-process (both ways), while contexts are working fine.
>
> 2. _Start Dates are ignored._
>
>     Toodledo's Start Dates should be mapped to SCHEDULED in orgmode
>     according to the preamble. This is also not working for me. DEADLINE
>     (Due Date) is working fine.
>
> 3. _Diacritics_
>
>     German (and probably other) umlauts break the upload. A task like
>     ** TODO Test für Uploads
>     ends up like "Test f" in Toodledo. Downloading similar entries end up in
>     the wrong encoding in orgmode.
>
> 4. _Time_
>
>     Using the Due Time field (instead of Due Date) in Toodledo breaks the
>     sync process: "Wrong type argument: stringp nil".
>
> 5. _Appointments?_
>
>     Is there any way to use normal active timestamps? Toodledo has no
>     calender nor a function for appointments. It would be nice to use
>     Toodledo to at least capture appointments. I've tried to
>     manually add a timestamp like<2010-05-27 11:00>  to the headline or
>     the textfield, but that doesn't work due to the encoding problem
>     mentioned above: The<  character will be changed during the sync
>     process.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Sven

Re: org-toodledo : sycning org-mode and Toodledo

[Mark Elston]

I just noticed, however, that setting a Deadline in Toodledo
does set the DEADLINE in org.

Guess I need to start diving into the code.

Mark

On 5/20/2010 2:42 PM, Mark Elston wrote:
> Sven,
>
> I have been playing with this today as well and can't get DEADLINES
> to work. How did you do it? When I set a deadline in org and sync
> it doesn't show up in Toodledo.
>
> In fact, I set a Start Date in Toodledo and did an update and
> my Scheduled date in org went away.
>
>
> Mark
>
> On 5/20/2010 2:18 AM, Sven Bretfeld wrote:
>> Hi Giovanni and all others
>>
>> Giovanni Ridolfi<giovanni.ridolfi@yahoo.it> writes:
>>
>>> Just for information:
>>>
>>> Two days ago (May 16th, 2010 ) Sacha Chua published a blog post with
>>> her contribution to org-toodledo.el - Toodledo integration for Emacs
>>> Org mode
>>>
>>> http://sachachua.com/wp/2010/05/org-toodledo/
>>>
>>> The code is available also on GitHub at
>>> http://github.com/sachac/org-toodledo
>>>
>>> Perhaps it is worth to look at it.
>>
>> Yes it definitely is. I'm playing with it at the moment. There are also
>> some Toodledo clients available for Android.
>>
>> Here are some problems I encountered:
>>
>> 1. _Tags are ignored._
>>
>> Toodledo discriminates between Contexts and Tags. The preamble of
>> org-toodledo.el states that both are mapped to what is called tags in
>> orgmode (e.g. :@HOME:). But Toodledo-tags are ignored in the
>> sync-process (both ways), while contexts are working fine.
>>
>> 2. _Start Dates are ignored._
>>
>> Toodledo's Start Dates should be mapped to SCHEDULED in orgmode
>> according to the preamble. This is also not working for me. DEADLINE
>> (Due Date) is working fine.
>>
>> 3. _Diacritics_
>>
>> German (and probably other) umlauts break the upload. A task like
>> ** TODO Test für Uploads
>> ends up like "Test f" in Toodledo. Downloading similar entries end up in
>> the wrong encoding in orgmode.
>>
>> 4. _Time_
>>
>> Using the Due Time field (instead of Due Date) in Toodledo breaks the
>> sync process: "Wrong type argument: stringp nil".
>>
>> 5. _Appointments?_
>>
>> Is there any way to use normal active timestamps? Toodledo has no
>> calender nor a function for appointments. It would be nice to use
>> Toodledo to at least capture appointments. I've tried to
>> manually add a timestamp like<2010-05-27 11:00> to the headline or
>> the textfield, but that doesn't work due to the encoding problem
>> mentioned above: The< character will be changed during the sync
>> process.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Sven
>
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Re: org-toodledo : sycning org-mode and Toodledo

[Sven Bretfeld]

Hi Mark

I'm not at home at the moment. Just a short note off the road. 

Mark Elston <m_elston@comcast.net> writes:

> I just noticed, however, that setting a Deadline in Toodledo
> does set the DEADLINE in org.

I think it works for me this way only too. I have mainly tried to use
Toodledo as a means for capturing. This works quite good for next
actions with only one tag (context). What i have captured on my Android
since Thursday straightly went to my org file at home (run-at-time), and
found its way back to my phone within an automatic  html export of my agenda.

However, a full sync with any of the available web todo services would be great.
and I think Sachua's toodledo solution is by far the most advanced at
the moment and the best point to start with.

Greetings,

Sven

Re: org-toodledo : sycning org-mode and Toodledo

[Mark Elston]

I agree.

I installed "Got To Do" on my droid and its ability to
sync with toodledo is perfect.  I hope that the reverse
sync'ing with org can be brought up to speed.

In the long term, however, I think MobileOrg-Android being
developed by Matthew Jones is probably the best bet as it
can support *all* aspects of org and not just TODO's.

For the time being, though, TODOs are sufficient for me.

I hope to have time this summer to work on both projects.
I am pretty swamped for the next couple of weeks though.

Mark

On 5/22/2010 7:29 AM, Sven Bretfeld wrote:
> Hi Mark
>
> I'm not at home at the moment. Just a short note off the road.
>
> Mark Elston<m_elston@comcast.net>  writes:
>
>> I just noticed, however, that setting a Deadline in Toodledo does
>> set the DEADLINE in org.
>
> I think it works for me this way only too. I have mainly tried to
> use Toodledo as a means for capturing. This works quite good for
> next actions with only one tag (context). What i have captured on my
> Android since Thursday straightly went to my org file at home
> (run-at-time), and found its way back to my phone within an automatic
> html export of my agenda.
>
> However, a full sync with any of the available web todo services
> would be great. and I think Sachua's toodledo solution is by far the
> most advanced at the moment and the best point to start with.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Sven
>

org-toodledo : sycning org-mode and Toodledo

[Christopher Long]

Hello all,

  R Takaishi's org-toodledo looks promising for mobile access via 
toodledo's web-page for those who don't
have an iphone.  I hadn't seen discussion of it here before.

    I've forked an annotated version with translations from the Japanese 
into English at github and have
begun working my way through it:

http://github.com/stophlong/repos

    The lisp code is able to communicate with Toodledo, but is still 
very rough around the edges:
I'm testing it with an expendable toodledo database as it has wiped it 
more than once.

  If anyone is interested in being involved in taking this forward, 
that'd be great.

Stoph

Re: org-toodledo : sycning org-mode and Toodledo

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Christopher,

this looks like a useful thing to do.  Please consider to eventually
make this a contributed package, and let me know if I can help.

- Carsten

On May 12, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Christopher Long wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> R Takaishi's org-toodledo looks promising for mobile access via  
> toodledo's web-page for those who don't
> have an iphone.  I hadn't seen discussion of it here before.
>
>   I've forked an annotated version with translations from the  
> Japanese into English at github and have
> begun working my way through it:
>
> http://github.com/stophlong/repos
>
>   The lisp code is able to communicate with Toodledo, but is still  
> very rough around the edges:
> I'm testing it with an expendable toodledo database as it has wiped  
> it more than once.
>
> If anyone is interested in being involved in taking this forward,  
> that'd be great.
>
> Stoph
>
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- Carsten