From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Difference between org-footnote.el and footnote.el Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 03:25:41 +0900 Message-ID: <87eibjl7x6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87tykgxqbb.fsf@fastmail.fm> <878w1s7zw8.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <871v7k7ydt.fsf_-_@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <4CC00391.6050608@easy-emacs.de> <87wrpb7unc.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <15036.1287673547@gamaville.dokosmarshall.org> <4CC078A6.7060309@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1287686140 31526 80.91.229.12 (21 Oct 2010 18:35:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 18:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tassilo Horn , Nick Dokos , Carsten Dominik , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F6hler?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 21 20:35:37 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P8zzC-0004no-9N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:35:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37833 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P8zzB-0003Cm-Cl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:35:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59745 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P8znz-0005N8-0Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:24:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8znx-0001N6-6v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:23:58 -0400 Original-Received: from imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.254.161]:59266) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P8znw-0001Mf-Me for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:23:57 -0400 Original-Received: from imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss71 (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1A72AF543; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 03:23:54 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (unknown [130.158.97.223]) by imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5B72AF542; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 03:23:54 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992813FA0511; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 03:23:54 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DA5461A3C36; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 03:25:41 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <4CC078A6.7060309@online.de> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.93a under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" ed3b274cc037 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:131949 Archived-At: Andreas R=F6hler writes: > Am 21.10.2010 17:05, schrieb Nick Dokos: > > How does footnote.el find the signature? I assumed before that > > signatures are free-form and therefore unfindable > > algorithmically, Nope. Signatures are delimited by "\n-- \n". What comes after the dash-dash-space (the trailing space is significant here) is indeed free-form. > there is no stringent relation between footnote.el and mail. Well, actually, there is. The author's intent was that it be used mostly in mail, and in particular in an MUA that appends the signature file after the user issues the "send" command. It was not really designed to be suitable for use in other contexts. It made things much simpler for him if he assumed that the document would be completed in a single session. That's why he never bothered dealing with reading a document in from a file, and the buffer format is not well-tuned to that kind of usage, either. > Keeping things easy, it seems preferable to have a working common=20 > footnote first and reflect the use in mails resp. signature issue=20 > afterwards. If org-mode has a footnoting capability, it's probably a better bet for future maintenance for the reasons mentioned above. If footnote.el is actually generalizable, that would probably surprise the author. :-)