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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Compiled files without sources????
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:57:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ei1bzjwg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E1Qm6l9-0000T1-TY@fencepost.gnu.org

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     >> We are, in essence, distributing binary blobs with Emacs, and I
>     >> find it surprising that this does not seem to disturb anybody
>     >> much except myself.
>
> If true, that is a very grave problem-- not just legally but ethically.
>
> Could you be so kind as to tell me, concisely, what the situation is?
> Which files have been included, which sources are missing, and what
> version are they included in?
>
> (I have not followed this thread until now, since I thought it was
> just a technical issue.)

CEDET uses parsers for figuring out syntax of languages.  It has parser
generators that convert bison grammars to Elisp.  The parser generators
are not in Emacs (inconvenient), and the bison grammars from which the
parsers are generated are not in Emacs (bad).

Since the documentation of the parser generators is also omitted, it is
not quite easy for me to tell what the original files for the parser
were (there are several parser generators in CEDET).

At least the following files, according to the comment section in them,
are autogenerated from (nondistributed) grammar files with extension wy
and by.

./lisp/cedet/srecode/srt-wy.el
./lisp/cedet/semantic/wisent/js-wy.el
./lisp/cedet/semantic/wisent/javat-wy.el
./lisp/cedet/semantic/wisent/python-wy.el
./lisp/cedet/semantic/grammar-wy.el
./lisp/cedet/semantic/bovine/scm-by.el
./lisp/cedet/semantic/bovine/make-by.el
./lisp/cedet/semantic/bovine/c-by.el

It is not clear to me what other files may be affected by stripping
CEDET to a runtime environment and matching it to the Emacs tree.

-- 
David Kastrup




  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-27 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-10  5:34 Emacs 23.3 released Chong Yidong
2011-03-10  8:58 ` Bastien
2011-03-10 16:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 16:22   ` David Kastrup
2011-03-10 16:54     ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-10 17:54       ` David Kastrup
2011-03-10 18:00         ` Lennart Borgman
2011-03-10 19:17           ` State of the CEDET merge (was: Emacs 23.3 released) David Engster
2011-03-11 14:29             ` State of the CEDET merge Lluís
2011-03-11 14:45               ` David Kastrup
2011-03-11 15:48                 ` Lluís
2011-03-12  9:42                   ` David Kastrup
2011-03-12 13:15                     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2011-03-12 20:49                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-13 14:13                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-14 19:55                           ` Lluís
2011-03-14 20:39                             ` Lennart Borgman
2011-03-14 22:28                               ` Lluís
2011-03-13 15:13                   ` David Engster
2011-03-14 20:08                     ` Lluís
2011-03-15  1:33                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 14:03                         ` Lluís
2011-03-16 15:24                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 15:30                             ` David Kastrup
2011-03-16 20:23                               ` Lluís
2011-03-18 17:43                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-18 17:51                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-24  8:14                     ` David Kastrup
2011-07-24 10:01                       ` David Engster
2011-07-24 13:11                         ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27  2:46                         ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-27  6:25                           ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27  7:21                             ` David Engster
2011-07-27  7:39                               ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27  8:06                                 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-07-27  8:24                                   ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27 16:14                                 ` Compiled files without sources???? Richard Stallman
2011-07-27 17:57                                   ` David Kastrup [this message]
2011-07-28  5:53                                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-28 10:02                                       ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-28 23:00                                         ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-28 23:28                                           ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-29 14:32                                             ` Milan
2011-07-29 22:33                                             ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-30  2:12                                               ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-30  4:36                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-30 20:33                                                   ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-30 23:20                                                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-07-31  4:46                                                       ` Tim Cross
2011-07-31 11:03                                                         ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 13:29                                                           ` Tim Cross
2011-07-31 17:45                                                             ` Andreas Röhler
2011-07-31 17:55                                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-07-31 18:06                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-31 20:06                                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-07-31 21:47                                                                   ` David Engster
2011-07-31 22:36                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 23:15                                                                       ` David Engster
2011-08-01  0:14                                                                         ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-31 23:10                                                                   ` Tim Cross
2011-08-01 12:33                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-01 13:14                                                                       ` David Kastrup
2011-08-01 14:37                                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-01 14:42                                                                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-08-02  0:13                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-02  7:10                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2011-08-03  4:17                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-02  0:13                                                                       ` Letting the users off the hook Richard Stallman
2011-08-03  4:16                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-03  6:50                                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-03 19:18                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-31 23:56                                                                   ` Compiled files without sources???? Richard Stallman
2011-07-31 16:19                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-31 17:04                                                       ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-31 23:56                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-01  3:08                                                           ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-01 21:28                                                             ` Replacing tarballs on-the-fly (was: Re: Compiled files without sources????) Ulrich Mueller
2011-08-02 16:09                                                               ` Replacing tarballs on-the-fly Chong Yidong
2011-08-02 17:43                                                                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-08-03  4:17                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-03 20:31                                                                     ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-02  0:13                                                             ` Compiled files without sources???? Richard Stallman
2011-08-02 15:56                                                             ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-03  4:16                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-30  4:35                                               ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-29 16:25                                   ` Evgeny M. Zubok
2011-07-29 16:37                                     ` David Kastrup
2011-07-29 23:40                                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-30 12:56                                       ` Evgeny M. Zubok
2011-07-30 13:25                                         ` David Kastrup
2011-07-30 20:55                                         ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-31 16:19                                           ` Richard Stallman
2011-03-10 16:45   ` Emacs 23.3 released Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-11  4:26     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-11  4:42       ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-11  9:44       ` Andreas Schwab
2011-03-11 20:18         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-11 23:03           ` Andreas Schwab
2011-03-12  0:03             ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-12  1:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 19:21   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-03-11  4:20     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-11  7:14       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-03-12  3:35         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-12 12:23           ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-14 14:10             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-14 14:52               ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-14 15:51                 ` Lexbind (was: Emacs 23.3 released) Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17  1:59                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 10:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-17 12:22                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 15:13                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 16:07                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-17 18:06                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 19:24                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-17 19:46                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-19  0:54                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-19  8:35                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-19  9:28                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 20:01                     ` Lexbind Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17 22:07                       ` Lexbind Wojciech Meyer
2011-03-17 23:29                       ` Lexbind Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-18  7:39                         ` Lexbind joakim
2011-03-10 19:27   ` Emacs 23.3 released Mike Mattie
2011-03-10 19:56   ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-11  8:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-11 16:56     ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-11 20:19     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 18:57 ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-12  9:28   ` updating web manuals [Re: " Jim Meyering

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