From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?xaB0xJtww6FuIE7Em21lYw==?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:58:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87ei0cjvow.fsf@gmail.com> References: <4E48D309.6050503@acdlabs.ru> <83hb5jujjs.fsf@gnu.org> <874o1j10zv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8362lyvcli.fsf@gnu.org> <83k4aasnm9.fsf@gnu.org> <838vqmx9tj.fsf@gnu.org> <87ipppjfiq.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1314093872 31388 80.91.229.12 (23 Aug 2011 10:04:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 23 12:04:28 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QvnqN-0000Gr-Qn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:04:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45847 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QvnqM-00006h-Uq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:04:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:51683) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QvnqK-00006I-IF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:04:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QvnqJ-0002nx-Gb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:04:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f41.google.com ([209.85.161.41]:45000) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QvnqH-0002nR-E0; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:04:21 -0400 Original-Received: by fxg9 with SMTP id 9so165956fxg.0 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 03:04:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eZOFmG7YX/PHzbySWQfAYvGjtoS7uglKZD9pkQPioy4=; b=qMAS1OKdVJASMnEsUDEk/F+Ov1TWjKd3ITX++XoLNcUiIU2hBggdL6iwV9IOAUTmXs NoyjZnt53G038Fq/LZHFJAp6y9Z/a+LV1lcfaIw3uQuj1NVCywemUaIK5YptRpYDi2qa Lwj813i7/uvQoUkF3yoNeo3UA0XnsJTZ45U10= Original-Received: by 10.223.6.91 with SMTP id 27mr5090437fay.115.1314093821761; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 03:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (176.119.broadband10.iol.cz [90.177.119.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p4sm6157fah.25.2011.08.23.03.03.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 23 Aug 2011 03:03:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:13:23 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.161.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:143533 Archived-At: On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 03:13:23 +0200 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> OTOH, making choose-completion know better than relying on mouse-face >> would also have the side-effect of providing more favourable conditions >> for fixing bug#8897. ;-) > > OTOH bug#8897 is for a use that's pretty far from the normal use case of > the completion code, so I wouldn't make such a significant change just to > accomodate this use case. I think I've gathered as much from the fact that the bug is still unfixed. Which is precisely why I used this precious opportunity to point out that there might be more reasons. So now there's also the fact that using the face for this seems like a kludge to Eli (and possibly others? certainly me included) and gets in the way of other unrelated code (or at least makes certain "obvious" solutions "non-obvious"). --=20 =C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n