From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Git mirrors Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:33:46 +0900 Message-ID: <87ehyjrhxh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <8762k095n4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871uuksdxi.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lissh32y.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87zkh8e286.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87d3e4gttq.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318325653 4375 80.91.229.12 (11 Oct 2011 09:34:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes , lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 11 11:34:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RDYit-0005P8-S1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:34:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58200 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDYit-0006dz-B6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:34:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46588) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDYil-0006d5-VW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:34:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDYil-0001cE-2O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:33:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:60864) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDYij-0001aX-FG; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:33:57 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A909707C0; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:33:47 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EF5641A2739; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:33:46 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0a1 under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" 6c76f5b7e2e3 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144878 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Why should you expect the Emacs project to behave differently from any > other Free Software project? Because most of the projects in the class you have mentioned produce free *software*, but their political principles are those of the open source movement. Emacs is different because it *is* a Free Software project. One could argue that Emacs should advocate the use of the strongest possible "team" of free software tools, rather than being biased to the use of GNU-labeled tools. After all, the project has no problem labelling other non-GNU tools (TeX, perl, X11) as "part of the GNU System". But choosing tools on technical capability is clearly not the policy of the GNU Project, so the point is moot. > I fail to see how this interpretation can be gleaned from what's been > said here. Projects that use git as their VCS are not being accused > of being "unfriendly competitors" to the GNU Project, and I, for one, > don't think they are. So what you say is simply unfair. I hope > fairness is still a virtue around here. Promoting an unusable tool merely because it had the GNU label is most definitely unfriendly competition. =C3=93scar's description is contentious but not unfair in this particular case.=20=20