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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	drew.adams@oracle.com
Subject: Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated]
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:35:23 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ehur698k.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F1BEAF7.8010003@cs.ucla.edu>

Paul Eggert writes:
 > On 01/22/2012 01:36 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
 > > I don't have it on either my Gentoo system or my Debian(!) system
 > 
 > It's from a Debian package, introduced in lenny (Debian GNU/Linux 5.0),
 > which was released about three years ago.  Here's a URL:
 > 
 > http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/console-setup

Well, the system was installed as stable in early 2007 and since
upgraded to testing (currently wheezy, plus some mission-critical
stuff from sid that I'm willing to baby-sit because it's mission
critical).  But that package is not installed on my system, which is a
common and up-to-date distribution.  It's possible that new installs
would always have it, but I suspect Emacs users are more likely to
have ancient repeatedly updated systems than the average user.

 > If you don't have setupcon, you can try this recipe instead,

It's not about me, OK?  If I want it, I doubt it would take me more
than half an hour to figure it out; I've been embedded in the world's
most complex linguistic environment (at least as far as computer use
goes) for 20 years, and was a recognized expert on the subject of
internationalization of GNU/Linux systems a decade ago, though I've
slipped quite a bit since then (obviously!)

I don't really have an objection to using directed quotes in Emacs, as
long as all the syntax tables and various things are set up correctly
before public release (and I would not be surprised to find out that
set up takes a while to shake down) -- at worst it should be annoying,
not work-stopping.  But I'd be willing to bet it's going to cause
annoyance to more than the three Emacs developers using the Linux
console if you start on it right now.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-22 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-18 15:12 TUTORIAL.de updated Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19  9:09 ` Martin
2012-01-19  9:37   ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 12:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-19 13:02       ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 14:55         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-19 16:24           ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 17:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20  5:00           ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-20  6:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-19 15:52 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-19 16:20   ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 16:41   ` quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] Glenn Morris
2012-01-19 17:22     ` Drew Adams
2012-01-19 23:08       ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20  3:02         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-20  6:23           ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20  6:48         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20  7:49         ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-20  8:45           ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20  9:24             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20 22:17               ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21  8:59                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-21 10:29                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-21 11:12                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-21 11:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-21 12:52                         ` Andreas Schwab
2012-01-22  3:27                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-22  3:32                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-22  6:30                   ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-22  8:00                   ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 10:22                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-22 13:06                       ` James Cloos
2012-01-21  9:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-22  6:30                   ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-22  8:18                     ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22  9:36                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-22 10:24                         ` Teemu Likonen
2012-01-22 10:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-22 10:54                         ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 11:56                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-22 20:35                             ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 15:35                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2012-01-22 16:33                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-23  7:04                       ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-20 12:13             ` quotation marks Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-20 12:44               ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-20 15:51                 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-20 18:40                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-20 12:01           ` quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] James Cloos
2012-01-22 15:03             ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-20 14:05         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-20 22:34           ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21  1:13             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-21  1:26               ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21  6:10                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-21  8:37                   ` Andreas Schwab
2012-01-21 18:13                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-21 19:58                       ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-21 17:17                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-21 17:19                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-19 18:14   ` TUTORIAL.de updated Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-19 18:50     ` quotation marks (was: Re: TUTORIAL.de updated) Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-19 21:45       ` Eli Zaretskii

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