From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12646: 24.2.50; Eshell problem with mailx(1) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 01:05:26 +0200 Message-ID: <87ehl0k62x.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> References: <87k3utnwet.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1350256067 12703 80.91.229.3 (14 Oct 2012 23:07:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: schwab@linux-m68k.org To: 12646@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 15 01:07:54 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TNXHl-0001Jk-Bo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 01:07:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53556 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TNXHe-0000kM-Dr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:07:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35791) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TNXHb-0000k5-4C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:07:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TNXHZ-0000Pn-Ph for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:07:42 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34022) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TNXFu-00006K-JK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:05:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TNXGv-00029q-Nk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:07:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12646 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12646-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12646.13502560028265 (code B ref 12646); Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:07:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12646) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Oct 2012 23:06:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44273 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TNXGb-00029G-Rs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:06:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]:38875) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TNXGY-000292-Ni for 12646@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:06:40 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 Oct 2012 23:05:28 -0000 Original-Received: from i59F5559F.versanet.de (EHLO rosalinde.fritz.box) [89.245.85.159] by mail.gmx.net (mp033) with SMTP; 15 Oct 2012 01:05:28 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Z/T1OdzhZ4Wow68S+4nviurIr87jRzH+Zzkgvp8 3CLN/PljGVzBE+ In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:00:34 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:65618 Archived-At: On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:00:34 +0200 Andreas Schwab wrote: > Stephen Berman writes: > >> Welcome to the Emacs shell >> >> /data/steve/lib/emacs/gtk $ mail >> Heirloom mailx version 12.5 7/5/10. Type ? for help. >> "/var/spool/mail/steve": 1 message 1 unread >>>U 1 jan.h.d@swipnet.se Sat Oct 13 23:53 109/4392 Re: bug#12612: 24.2.50; F >> ? >> WARNING: terminal is not fully functional >> - (press RETURN) > > This is a bug in less, which crashes here. As a workaround, disable the > pager. > > Andreas. Thanks for your explanation and your suggestion, but I have problems with each and, even though this apparently is not an Emacs issue, I hope you will indulge me a bit further: First, regarding your suggested workaround, I'm not sure exactly what you mean. I tried `export PAGER=""' both from eshell and also from the shell before starting Emacs, and neither changed the mailx problem in eshell. Then I tried `export PAGER="more"' and with that I could now read mail with mailx from eshell; is that what you meant? However, this is an unsatisfactory workaround, since `more' is much worse than `less'; also, if this is only a problem with mailx, I wouldn't want to have `less' replaced by `more' generally in eshell. Or if you meant something else, please say precisely what I have to do to disable the pager. Regarding your explanation, both my openSUSE 12.1 and 12.2 installations contain the same version of less, less 444, yet the eshell problem with mailx only happens in 12.2, so the bug must be elsewhere; is it in the 12.2 packaging (less-444-9.1.2.x86_64.rpm vs. less-444-3.2.1.x86_64.rpm in 12.1)? But if so, why is there no problem using less itself from eshell in openSUSE 12.2? And why does this bug only show up with mailx in eshell (AFAIK)? There is no problem using mailx with `M-x shell' or `M-x term', nor from outside of Emacs (all with `less' as pager). If there is a bug in `less' in openSUSE 12.2, I should report it, but aside from just repeating my Emacs bug report, I can't see what else to say; if you can elaborate the issue, that would help. Steve Berman