From: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: David Koppelman <koppel@ece.lsu.edu>, 13686@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#13686: hi-yellow vs. hi-lock-1
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 08:17:47 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ehfpb86k.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvboat8ir5.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 08 Mar 2013 20:33:15 -0500")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>>> hi-lock-N
>>> highlight-N
>>> font-lock-user-N
>>> font-lock-highlight-N
>>> font-lock-extra-face-N
>
> The "font-lock-<foo>" names are due to history. There's no point using
> this scheme for new faces, especially for faces not directly linked to
> font-lock.
David had reservations with introducing hi-lock-N. I am not sure he
continues to hold this reservation.
For now, highlight-Ns for N=6 with highlight and highlight-1 aliased to
each other.
>> As for the convention of not naming or otherwise linking a face with
>> particular attributes (as some may interpret it), either it doesn't
>> apply here, or if it does, it's a good place to ignore it. I've argued
>> before that it does not apply because as most agree faces should be
>> defined for a particular purpose rather than for appearance, such as
>> for highlighting variable names. The face hi-yellow has a purpose:
>> highlight something with a background of yellow. It is named
>> appropriately and its attributes are so set. If there is a rule
>> somewhere which clearly states that this is not allowed, then that
>> rule should be broken in this case.
>
> How 'bout designing a concise "face description" format, so that instead
> of choosing "hi-yellow", the user can choose (say) "b:yellow",
> "f:blue", or "s:bold". This would give access to "any color", and in
> order not to overwhelm the user, the completion would default to only
> completing among a predefined set (corresponding to the current
> predefined faces)?
So you are steering the discussion exactly to the opposite extreme.
What is your motivation here. Where do you think jit named-faces could
be useful, apart from highlighting case.
> Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-09 2:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-11 6:14 bug#13686: 24.3.50; Re-look hi-lock-face-defaults (aka Provide more "core" faces for highlighting) Jambunathan K
2013-02-15 15:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-15 18:29 ` David Koppelman
2013-02-15 20:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-26 23:11 ` bug#13686: hi-yellow vs. hi-lock-1 David Koppelman
2013-02-27 0:33 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-27 1:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-27 3:59 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 4:58 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-27 5:10 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 5:38 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-27 5:54 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 6:01 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-27 23:45 ` Juri Linkov
2013-03-06 18:43 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06 19:54 ` David Koppelman
2013-03-07 9:16 ` Juri Linkov
2013-03-06 19:04 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 3:49 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 13:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-27 14:56 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 16:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-06 18:56 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06 19:55 ` David Koppelman
2013-03-06 20:06 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-07 0:54 ` David Koppelman
2013-03-07 3:23 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-09 1:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-09 2:47 ` Jambunathan K [this message]
2013-03-09 3:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-08 5:31 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-10 4:11 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-10 18:33 ` David Koppelman
2013-04-11 4:24 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 3:36 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-27 4:08 ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-15 4:45 ` bug#13686: 24.3.50; Re-look hi-lock-face-defaults (aka Provide more "core" faces for highlighting) Jambunathan K
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