From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: beginner questions Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:26:01 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87eh8d2qxi.fsf@informatimago.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380101482 21602 80.91.229.3 (25 Sep 2013 09:31:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:31:22 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 25 11:31:28 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VOlRO-0005yB-IE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:31:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51083 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOlRO-00062Q-55 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 05:31:26 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 68 Original-X-Trace: individual.net JuwUsdPVpy9xCUzFJpmDmw6Fcy+G9Qv1WySJ5Q4y3M/rYdoOkW Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZWVmYjc3NzJkMzNhYTRjNTk5NTEyNGRjZWI3OGQ3MGQ0YmMyZGQ3Mg== sha1:5mwOS8Uh7RNSD/pu0WfZQSTh5Cs= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:201284 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93553 Archived-At: JohnF writes: > Can't use my favorite editor any more (long story, don't ask:), > and decided to go with emacs. Of course, there are zillions of > tutorials, etc, but most are almost-infinitely wordy, whereas > I'm comfortable with editors and basically want a cheat sheet. > But even they're usually too long, with lots of arcane commands > that I'm sure I'll eventually want to know, but not while I'm > still trying to remember how to cut-and-paste. > So I started making my own forkosh.com/emacs.txt but am > having difficulty zeroing in on some info. > Most importantly, how to "turn off everything". For example, > no html help, e.g., I don't want to see stuff or >

stuff

underlined. M-x fundamental-mode RET This gives you the basic editor features and nothing more. M-x text-mode RET is designed to edit natural language texts (paragraphs, lines, words, characters). It may not be useful to edit code, which is structured quite differently from natural language text. > And really annoying, I don't want > the cursor to momentarily jump back to ( after I type (stuff). > Ditto , etc. Very distracting (to me). Basically, > I just want a dumb editor in the sense that it shouldn't think > it knows >>anything<< about the language/syntax I'm writing in, > regardless of filename extension. It should just see a stream > of uninterpreted characters, unless it sees C- or M- (or > something with special emacs significance). Yep, fundamental-mode will give you that. > And various and sundry minor questions, e.g., what exactly > is the undo scope of C-/ and how do you just undo "last keystroke", > and no more than that (if last keystroke was a C-y then, okay, > undo the entire yank)? It seems to me, history coalesce input, so that undo can't undo text entry character by character, (unless you separate each character by some other command, such as cursor move). Other than that, it seems to me that undo works like that, undoing one command at a time. > Finally, have I missed some tutorial/cheat-sheet-type info designed > for my kind of needs -- already familiar with various languages > and editors, and just wants to get down to work using emacs? > Just wants the 100 or so most used commands "telegraphed", without > more extra words than necessary? Thanks, http://cs.iupui.edu/~kweimer/EmacsCheatSheet.pdf seems to be a nice and short cheat sheet. Now of course, the big win of emacs, is when you activate those modes that provide automatic features specific to the kind of document you're editing and its syntax. So fundamental-mode is not used often. But I agree that it may help for newbies, to start with it, and add layers and tools later. -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/