all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: beginner questions
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:26:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eh8d2qxi.fsf@informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: l1u4tj$e14$1@reader1.panix.com

JohnF <john@please.see.sig.for.email.com> writes:

> Can't use my favorite editor any more (long story, don't ask:),
> and decided to go with emacs. Of course, there are zillions of
> tutorials, etc, but most are almost-infinitely wordy, whereas
> I'm comfortable with editors and basically want a cheat sheet.
> But even they're usually too long, with lots of arcane commands
> that I'm sure I'll eventually want to know, but not while I'm
> still trying to remember how to cut-and-paste.
>   So I started making my own  forkosh.com/emacs.txt  but am
> having difficulty zeroing in on some info.
>   Most importantly, how to "turn off everything". For example,
> no html help, e.g., I don't want to see <u>stuff</u> or
> <h2>stuff</h2> underlined. 

M-x fundamental-mode RET

This gives you the basic editor features and nothing more.


M-x text-mode RET

is designed to edit natural language texts (paragraphs, lines, words,
characters).  It may not be useful to edit code, which is structured
quite differently from natural language text.


> And really annoying, I don't want
> the cursor to momentarily jump back to ( after I type (stuff).
> Ditto <stuff>, etc. Very distracting (to me). Basically,
> I just want a dumb editor in the sense that it shouldn't think
> it knows >>anything<< about the language/syntax I'm writing in,
> regardless of filename extension. It should just see a stream
> of uninterpreted characters, unless it sees C- or M- (or
> something with special emacs significance).

Yep, fundamental-mode will give you that.


>   And various and sundry minor questions, e.g., what exactly
> is the undo scope of C-/ and how do you just undo "last keystroke",
> and no more than that (if last keystroke was a C-y then, okay,
> undo the entire yank)?

It seems to me, history coalesce input, so that undo can't undo text
entry character by character, (unless you separate each character by
some other command, such as cursor move).  Other than that, it seems to
me that undo works like that, undoing one command at a time.


>   Finally, have I missed some tutorial/cheat-sheet-type info designed
> for my kind of needs -- already familiar with various languages
> and editors, and just wants to get down to work using emacs?
> Just wants the 100 or so most used commands "telegraphed", without
> more extra words than necessary? Thanks,

http://cs.iupui.edu/~kweimer/EmacsCheatSheet.pdf
seems to be a nice and short cheat sheet.

Now of course, the big win of emacs, is when you activate those modes
that provide automatic features specific to the kind of document you're
editing and its syntax.  So fundamental-mode is not used often.  But I
agree that it may help for newbies, to start with it, and add layers and
tools later.

-- 
__Pascal Bourguignon__
http://www.informatimago.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-25  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-25  7:55 beginner questions JohnF
2013-09-25  9:26 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon [this message]
2013-09-25 11:18   ` JohnF
2013-09-25 12:55     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-28  8:39       ` JohnF
2013-09-28 15:30         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-28 17:11           ` Rustom Mody
2013-09-28 18:07             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-29  3:45               ` Drew Adams
2013-09-28 22:32             ` Kai Grossjohann
2013-09-29  8:30               ` Drew Adams
2013-09-29  7:27           ` JohnF
2013-09-29 13:45             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-30  8:46               ` JohnF
2013-09-26  2:22     ` Jude DaShiell
2013-09-25 17:47 ` Doug Lewan
     [not found] ` <mailman.2869.1380131281.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-26  7:44   ` JohnF
2013-09-26 17:52 ` Ken Goldman
     [not found] ` <mailman.2943.1380217948.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-27  2:37   ` Rustom Mody
2013-09-28  8:16   ` JohnF
2013-09-28 18:18     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]     ` <mailman.3090.1380392333.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-29  7:58       ` JohnF
2013-10-01 17:27       ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-01 17:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-01 20:02         ` Joost Kremers
2013-10-02  0:56         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]         ` <mailman.3227.1380675393.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-10-02 14:34           ` Rustom Mody

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87eh8d2qxi.fsf@informatimago.com \
    --to=pjb@informatimago.com \
    --cc=help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.