From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Need help for oh-my-emacs. Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 04:17:21 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87eh7marhx.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> References: <87r4bmck35.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <466ccb91-a02b-4e77-b44f-265fc4c19453@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381890014 2003 80.91.229.3 (16 Oct 2013 02:20:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 02:20:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 16 04:20:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VWGif-0004mJ-4m for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2013 04:20:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45010 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VWGie-0007qa-H5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 22:20:16 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.albasani.net!rt.uk.eu.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 59 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: /ZLK7EtDT1dvbkmVtWlLYw.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:1X8ak99g1aQxIF6SvOjbHI/T01Y= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:201763 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94032 Archived-At: xiaohanyu1988@gmail.com writes: > To tell the truth, I think some code snippets from > emacswiki or blogs or google is not portable and > newbie-friendly. Various elisp code from the web > conflicts with each other. Yeah? I never had any Elisp conflicting, how do you mean? They are just a bunch of defuns... > Definitely sure, a package manager is much more better > than sharing code in emacswiki or some other places. For a Linux distribution, with lots of dependencies, binaries, and the need to organize everything in a file system (to provide a uniform way to access manpages, etc. etc.), yes. For Elisp... I can't say I ever experienced a need for conflict resolution and the like. (But it is an interesting thought.) > Emacs already has lots of builtin mode, so why there > comes lots of third-party packages such as js2-mode, > elpy, SLIME, nrepl? Since the builtin mode is not > powerful, we need third party packages. I'm unfamiliar with those packages. But I did install something - some LaTeX extension, I think. But I did that with aptitude exactly as any other software on my system so perhaps work should be done to followup that example? People are already so used to aptitude so if you could get the surplus Emacs stuff that way that would be much better than a new tool, I think. > Nobody want to work with plain emacs. ? > oh-my-emacs just provide a basic point. Just like no > body want to work with plain linux kernel, so there > comes Ubuntu/Gentoo/Archlinux etc. Yeah, but Linux is a *kernel* - there is nothing to *work* with, it is a process that runs all the time so you can run *other* processes without resource races, starvation, etc., and *those* processes are the software in execution, that you get from the Linux distributions you mention. Which are in fact not always "Linux" but can be software from GNU (isn't X is from MIT?) or whatever. Emacs is a great interface to the computer but it is not an OS! I don't understand that metaphor at all. > Some screenshots: http://www.douban.com/photos/album/117065634/ Get back to you... -- Emanuel Berg, programmer-for-rent. CV, projects, etc at uXu underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573