From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Move to git is not imminent - esr is just tired of talking about it Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 16:12:53 -0600 Message-ID: <87eh4kyd22.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> References: <20140106165108.B6BF4380865@snark.thyrsus.com> <1389030588.11337.48.camel@Iris> <52CAF35F.9070005@dancol.org> <877gac27uk.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389046394 26438 80.91.229.3 (6 Jan 2014 22:13:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 22:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Eric S. Raymond" , "Jordi \\1" , Daniel Colascione , Emacs developers To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 06 23:13:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0IQ9-0004VH-1a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 23:13:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37862 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0IQ8-0001cV-KS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 17:13:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54256) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0IPw-0001Yg-60 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 17:13:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0IPn-0003y3-O2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 17:13:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ie0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::232]:58755) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0IPn-0003xw-Hn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 17:12:55 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ie0-f178.google.com with SMTP id lx4so18621831iec.23 for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 14:12:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:reply-to:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=qqxAVEpz3y/eOP+JcZrUUhWot59QLiKQ0sKgvZOQ4tw=; b=bOVUWmIv0s/nmTUKhvVePwnc8XHDJGWpSrw3fZbjHHY39eF11xWimgPhI8shoAsoS/ XT9qv6PYA0mvxUJNcd78GazxDJIjEOMCHPYBPk8fOoF67NSBlgcc8ZpYd6WhXc5Lr8fx ZkXiNbbWAzj+Ei5AdfQqKeEfOoaDFWwNiE7gp6Au+IY1ejV0jacmmbXB0qIRVWkVECf5 /ztyk+Sng7XmdMqK0tgt5aih6wnrMMMUlRjMlcFSsDwlNFDBoR0P0+bejHn6v9WyK1rX MYzLSRrhQnVa12Q3DS3mx8GJlmWK5FaJyUWyoNjrzsJQaPfIa436F3WomIWsAXPhRbpX BY1w== X-Received: by 10.50.25.227 with SMTP id f3mr22366253igg.16.1389046374978; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 14:12:54 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from floss.red-bean.com (74-92-190-113-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [74.92.190.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id lp9sm232944igb.2.2014.01.06.14.12.53 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Jan 2014 14:12:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Mon, 6 Jan 2014 21:26:55 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167532 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: >Oh, really? Reasonable? I know you have a lot of knowledge about how >free/open source projects work (great book, BTW). Have you >participated in many projects where someone who is not a regular >contributor, or he is but hasn't been active for years, >single-handledly assumed responsibility for something as important as >a VCS switch and put a date to it, in four days? Because what you call >"volunteering" I would call "trampling". Like I said, to me he's just being aggressive about getting it done, but I don't sense that he's trying to trample anything. (Also, ESR has some history of activity in Emacs over many years, though lately he has not been very active -- of course, that's not immediately obvious from just seeing his post, so it's understandable you might not have known it.) Thank you for the kind comment about the book, by the way! Best, -K