From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Helm (and?) or Icicles (possibly using Evil) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 01:07:23 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87eh0hgij8.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> References: <4cd079bd-9978-422f-9449-51d8fbe76485@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398726630 30986 80.91.229.3 (28 Apr 2014 23:10:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 23:10:30 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 29 01:10:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Weugp-0007IS-BR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 01:10:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46375 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Weugo-0002qI-RS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:10:22 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 24 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76deLesW2eQLoRE+jzJEFA.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:N/nUfoZQllcJ/J+QiXKRmeWYYQk= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205167 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97434 Archived-At: > I may very well end up using emacs for dozens of > different functions without ever using it for email > or usenet. Yes, but why? > You're really telling newbies they have to start > straight off using emacs for everything it's capable > of doing before they've learned anything about the > environment itself via their own approach? I'm not telling anyone they *have* to do anything, I'm telling them it *makes sense*. Do simple, routine stuff first, then gradually refine, gradually advance. It is a general method that works in all walks of life, for all types of activity. Wax on, wax off. Take on the grandmaster day one, you get killed! -- underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573