From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: news:gnu.emacs.* Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:12:18 +0000 Message-ID: <87egtrb04t.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> References: <20141015154039.GC3093@acm.acm> <87y4sh2rsj.fsf@gmx.de> <87bnpdxnve.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1414581173 22794 80.91.229.3 (29 Oct 2014 11:12:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:12:53 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 29 12:12:48 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XjRBI-0003TZ-HP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:12:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45016 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjRBH-0006qB-GS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:12:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56971) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjRB2-0006oK-Lu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:12:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjRAy-0001TV-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:12:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fely.am-1.org ([2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2]:44108) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjRAy-0001TQ-A3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:12:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=Iw9yy9z/5LD7tJYlR6pYIlYHGYmQCscJ1FTQ3iRkhV4=; b=V86cNSlVR+6ElupTvKU5iR8YPFo+589Ek4S0T84SUvbJjA0zTN4OQ5A5PZiuaEsFYkPAwvhbwuWahJq654nXE4sh+bOHb8okv+LHlo/oKvcgH0h/rG8DOZW+aAeqsUhF6aVXU53jfrJ6iwsSgylv54D5PzV+PwBzjp3KttYuzcU=; Original-Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XjRAw-000124-8B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:12:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XjRAp-0003D2-4G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 18:12:19 +0700 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 15 Oct 2014 18:35:08 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175972 Archived-At: >>>>> Glenn Morris writes: >>>>> Ivan Shmakov wrote: >>>>> Michael Albinus writes: >>> I do read all gnu-emacs MLs via Gmane, which allows me to reply w/o >>> such problems. Maybe you give it a try. >> Incidentally, this is what I=E2=80=99ve just suggested. Still, I=E2=80= =99d rather >> appreciate if someone could take care of actually fixing the email >> to Usenet gateway for these mailing lists. > It's impossible. The reasons why have been explained in the past. > Please just let gnu.emacs.bug the newsgroup die. Pretty please. > (I know your concern is message-ids, I have other ones.) FTR, =E2=80=93 the Message-Id:s are broken not just for news:gnu.emacs.bug alone, =E2=80=93 news:gnu.emacs.help shows exactly the same issue (see, e.=C2=A0g., the example I=E2=80=99ve posted earlier [1]), and presumably the same applies all across the gnu.emacs.* groups (or perhaps even all the gnu.* ones.) Naturally, the gmane.emacs.* groups do /not/ exhibit this issue, so it=E2=80=99s certainly not something inherently impossible to fix. If the issue with news:gnu.emacs.bug is specifically its (lack of) integration with the BTS, =E2=80=93 it should still be possible to deduce the bug report to add the incoming articles to (or the address to forward to) based on either References:, In-Reply-To:, or (perhaps preferably) the Subject: field. (The latter is, incidentally, how some other bug trackers =E2=80=93 like, say, RT =E2=80=93 behave.) [1] news:874mv2wzpp.fsf@violet.siamics.net --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A