From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Turning off colorization Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 10:11:34 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? 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X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176380 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > M-x font-lock-mode will turn off colorization, but it's not a name > > > that will come to a user's mind very easily. How about making > > > colorize-mode an alias for font-lock-mode? > > > > > > Also, how about putting it in the Options menu? > > > Why not "syntax-highlight-mode"? > > There's nothing wrong with that name, > but it's not what a user will think of. > What the mode normally does is put the text in color. > A user will think of typing M-x color TAB > to look for a name. > > So I think it should have the name colorize-mode. > > If it also has the name syntax-highlight-mode, that is fine too. Syntax highlighting is an established term for this. Even the description of font-lock-mode has the summary Toggle syntax highlighting in this buffer (Font Lock mode). and every editor capable of doing it calls it "syntax highlighting". Colorization, in contrast, is a much more generic term missing the connotation of the _meaning_ with which colors are assigned. I don't see the point in diverging from established terminology here: as opposed to kill/yank (vs cut/paste) we do not have mnemonic keybindings riding on our original terms. If I do "man vim", I read There are a lot of enhancements above Vi: multi level undo, multi win\u2010 dows and buffers, syntax highlighting, command line editing, filename If I do apt-cache search -f bluefish, I get fully featured image insert dialog; thumbnail creation and automatically linking of the thumbnail with the original image; and configurable HTML syntax highlighting. Package: winefish Description-md5: 0c545214eec1a9e30aec3c9e8f9c296d Description-en: LaTeX Editor based on Bluefish Winefish is a GTK+ based LaTeX editor, which was forked from Bluefish. The main features are autotext, auto-completion, function references, syntax highlighting, customizable external tools and UTF-8 support. If I do apt-cache search -f emacs, I get far, far too many entries. The very first mentioning _anything_ along the kind of font-locking is Description-en: A Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) editing mode for Emacs This is a simple Emacs mode for editing CSS style sheets. It adds font-locking and some basic auto-indentation support to Emacs. It works with Emacs 19.34, but should also work with both older and newer versions as well as XEmacs. The next is Package: erlang-mode Description-md5: 458834bc6eb6df394adfd308669076f9 Description-en: Erlang major editing mode for Emacs This package includes the mode for editing Erlang programs in GNU Emacs. It is provided with the default Erlang/OTP distribution. It supports sophisticated indentation, syntax highlighting, electric commands, module name verification, comments, skeletons, tags etc. Really, this battle is over. And in this case, I see no point in digging up its grave. -- David Kastrup