From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Elisp addiction not as bad in light of Linux forkoholism Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 15:56:34 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87egskwxct.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <873891sgaw.fsf@debian.uxu> <87oarp9sk4.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417359632 31949 80.91.229.3 (30 Nov 2014 15:00:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 15:00:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 30 16:00:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xv5z5-0004mC-TR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:00:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50651 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xv5z5-0006A0-HT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 10:00:23 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin3!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 33 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: feB02bRejf23rfBm51Mt7Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:/RwDT4l9Vii1K/K0i2y0ARW/pXk= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:209035 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101314 Archived-At: Dan Espen writes: >> I've not looked at systemd too closely, but AFAICS, >> the problem is not child-diseases, but more that >> it's not enough unixy. > > It's like an echo. I keep reading this same opinion. > > 1. I don't know much about it 2. It's bad. > > Spend a little time appreciating the simplicity of > systemd and then reach your conclusion. In my > opinion, the design is good and it takes a whole > bunch of disorganized shell scripts and turns them > into data. I nice simple, readable data structure. > > Is it "unixy"? > > As if that word meant something, I'd say yes. It's > just the right amount of code to solve the problem. Well, yeah, and regardless of whatever it is absolutely nothing to get all heated-up about, not to mention forking Debian which is a farse. Maybe they did that as a scam just so people would stop the litany. Now they can tell the whiners - if you don't like it, join the forked Debian!. (By the way, I expect that project not exactly to hit the top-ten list of the Eurovision song contest.) -- underground experts united