Re: zsh outside of Emacs (was: Why do we need a number of different terminal modes in Emacs?)

[Robert Thorpe <rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com>]

Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:

> * Robert Thorpe <rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com> wrote:
>> Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:
>> ...
>>> However, this confirms my habit of using a Terminal emulator, with
>>> GNU/screen[1], together with a great set-up of zsh[2].
>>
>> You can use GNU Screen and Zsh and connect to them using M-x term.  That
>> puts them within Emacs, but Screen should make things safe from Emac's
>> crashes.
>
> And what advantages would I get?

You get to work inside Emacs and Screen should stop your terminals from
getting hosed when Emacs crashes.

>>> Unfortunately, my GNU/Emacs tends to be very unstable[3] so that I
>>> have to kill and re-start it several times a day. I handle this by
>>> having a very tight auto-save-interval. Losing all of my open shell
>>> sessions would be a disaster.
>>
>> Have you bisected your init file?
>
> No.

I have an MS Windows specific part of my init file and an Ubuntu specific
part.  If you do the same then it could be a bug your Debian specific
part.  It could also be a bug in Debian's site-start code, a lot of that
distro site-start code is old and crufty.

> Most issues only appear in my "GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1
> (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of 2014-01-01 on gkar,
> modified by Debian" and not in my GNU Emacs I use on Windows.
>
> Therefore I have the strong feeling that my Emacs backport for
> Debian/Wheezy is the cause for some issues.

What's the 50 in 24.3.50.1?  Is it a number used by Debian to do their
versioning?  Or does it mean you're using an unreleased version of
Emacs?  If it's the latter then that's probably the problem.

If not I'd try a different Emacs build.  I'm using an old version of
XUbuntu with an Emacs from some PPA and it works fine.

BR,
Robert Thorpe