From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: lax matching is not a great default behavior
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 09:49:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87egfay0dj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c9f3197f-b5f3-42f3-817c-bf560842b4d7@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 27 Nov 2015 21:04:54 -0800 (PST)")
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> This has been discussed somewhat, but I don't think there was
> any actual proposal to change the behavior. So here goes.
>
> Does it still make sense to make search and replacement
> use lax matching, i.e., fold stuff, by default?
>
> I don't think it does. I think that users, especially
> new users, would be less confused if Emacs defaulted to
> literal searching - no whitespace, case, "character",
> or other folding by default.
For better or worse, our default fantasy "new user" is not one using a
computer for the first time but rather one using Emacs for the first
time. Most other desktop applications with a search functionality do
case folding.
It makes sense in text modes, less so in programming modes, but there
are a number of programming languages which ignore case (partly because
they are older than useful encodings distinguishing upper- and lowercase
letters, and when ASCII terminals came around, people got tired of
writing and reading in all-caps).
--
David Kastrup
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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-28 5:04 lax matching is not a great default behavior Drew Adams
2015-11-28 8:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-11-28 14:50 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-01 9:23 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-12-01 10:38 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-12-01 10:42 ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-01 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-01 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 8:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<m2mvtv1ldi.fsf@newartisans.com>
2015-11-30 16:51 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-01 14:40 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-01 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-01 18:49 ` Mark Oteiza
2015-12-01 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-01 19:32 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-01 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-01 19:38 ` Mark Oteiza
2015-12-01 19:36 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-01 19:51 ` Mark Oteiza
2015-12-01 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-01 20:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-01 23:31 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-01 23:45 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-02 3:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-02 8:23 ` martin rudalics
2015-12-02 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-02 13:06 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-02 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-02 17:25 ` Artur Malabarba
[not found] ` <<83r3j6j5vj.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<83poyqj5qb.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-12-01 21:17 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-02 17:52 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-03 22:27 ` Per Starbäck
2015-12-03 23:00 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-04 0:09 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-04 8:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 9:33 ` Per Starbäck
2015-12-04 10:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 10:57 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-04 11:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 12:04 ` Per Starbäck
2015-12-04 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 17:47 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-05 8:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-04 15:55 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-04 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<83610ikvto.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<CADkQgvs-WvPX=qZ0B_un9j53RF6S4V5OmDTATSW1ZwTY50o2Rg@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <<83bna6ipn7.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<45e1580a-863c-4bd7-82ec-38c27a0d930e@default>
[not found] ` <<831tb2ghkf.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-12-04 21:30 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-04 22:16 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-04 22:37 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-04 23:08 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-04 23:57 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-05 7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-01 3:54 ` Discussions that led to changes in the defaults, was: " Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-28 8:49 ` David Kastrup [this message]
[not found] <<d77851fd-da55-4020-82e8-abbd13f9b048@default>
[not found] ` <<83twnxfi0h.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-12-05 9:27 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-05 11:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<6741424b-fb48-48d1-a2fe-a5b755373c46@default>
[not found] ` <<83fuzhf8op.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-12-05 15:59 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-06 1:37 ` John Wiegley
[not found] <<c9f3197f-b5f3-42f3-817c-bf560842b4d7@default>
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