From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric S Fraga Subject: Re: Citation processing via Zotero + zotxt Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 09:20:40 +0000 Message-ID: <87egf2vac7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <87wpt1yj5k.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87d1uqyiva.fsf@berkeley.edu> <8737vkidgl.fsf@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49054) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4mXp-0001d6-Rl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 04:20:50 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4mXm-0007Ti-O4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 04:20:49 -0500 Received: from mail-db3on0122.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([157.55.234.122]:2849 helo=emea01-db3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4mXm-0007TV-9B for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 04:20:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: (John Kitchin's message of "Thu, 03 Dec 2015 18:31:14 -0500") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Kitchin Cc: Martin =?utf-8?B?WXJqw7Zsw6Q=?= , Matt Lundin , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Thursday, 3 Dec 2015 at 18:31, John Kitchin wrote: > I clearly had some super important academic work to do today, so instead > I played around with citations ;) Hey, I am doing just that right now ;-) > I am not yet convinced a citation processor will get us where we want > because of the complexity of the external dependencies, and the > potential/probable need for us to define new CSL files for different > backends, or at a minimum for org-formatted citations and > bibliographies. Hacking bst files is no fun, and it doesn't look like > CSL files are much better! Plus you have to find them and install them > somehow. I agree completely. I've looked at your web page for this. I like your solution. It is not complete but we know that a complete solution for citations, given all the weird and wonderful formats journals etc. expect, requires a very complex database of style information (witness bst and csl files). For a quick 'n' dirty solution, keeping to emacs lisp and org is very appealing. However, it is most appealing for those of us coming from the bibtex world... -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.50.2, Org release_8.3.2-363-g5c13a6