From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: technology and politics/ideology Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 20:48:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87egdk3psn.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87bn8qc8f4.fsf@debian.uxu> <20160113073446.GB12287@tuxteam.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452800987 30999 80.91.229.3 (14 Jan 2016 19:49:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:49:47 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 14 20:49:38 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aJntp-0006ah-Ml for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 20:49:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44370 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aJntm-0006bX-1L for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:49:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48615) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aJntc-0006bG-0s for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:49:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aJntX-0002Rw-Lo for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:49:23 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:57110) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aJntX-0002Rs-Ei for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:49:19 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aJntR-0006JV-Fz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 20:49:13 +0100 Original-Received: from nl106-137-244.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 20:49:13 +0100 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-244.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 20:49:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 36 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-244.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:c9PiFF84/SoEQkZsmuV5GENb1tY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:108742 Archived-At: writes: >> The people who use the best technology are the best > > ...technology users (as opposed to parents, teachers > technology makers, midwifers, agricultors, poets). > >> and have the best views and attitudes. > > ...the best (technology users') views and attitudes. > [...] > Sorry for my broken sensors. Your sensors are functioning because that's what I mean. Speaking of *teachers*, both my parents were teachers and I know many teachers and future teachers. We could start a foundation or a subsection of one that already exists, like "GNU/Emacs/Linux [whatever] to the Schools" with some vary basic material to it (like a big poster and a pile of flyers) and then insist we get to speak to the kids 45 minutes (just like the firefighters etc. did with us). Probably the teachers wouldn't be opposed to this, but for it to materialize a "phantom organization" which doesn't really do anything is always good to have behind your back and refer to. Maybe it can even get some funds from the EU or something. (?) -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573