From: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 09:14:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87egc68opx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CADtN0W+qyRZFwDR+MtLxBdayLbzajwbS1_ykufSg1OQLU8yY8w@mail.gmail.com
Elias Mårtenson writes:
> Because under the Unicode decomposition rules, ø is not decomposable. I
> can't explain why that is the case (probably because there is no reason to
> have a combining /. After all, the only languages that use ø are languages
> that use it as a character of its own).
AFAIK, for combining characters to be composable/decomposable the glyphs
must not overlap. This is the same issue as with the polish »ł« to the
best of my knowledge.
In other words, unicode composition/decomposition rules tell you more
about the glyph construction than they do about useful strategies to
search for multiple characters. The idea of using the base character of
the canonical decomposition in the search might still yield a useful
shortcut in most cases, but I'm not sure it is correct in all languages
even when that decomposition exists and, as the examples show, there are
cases where the non-decomposed character has to be treated specially.
Regards,
Achim.
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2016-02-09 17:54 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-10 0:49 ` Pierpaolo Bernardi
2016-02-10 2:20 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-10 3:01 ` Pierpaolo Bernardi
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2016-02-10 18:12 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-10 19:23 ` Artur Malabarba
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2016-02-09 16:43 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-09 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 17:10 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-09 18:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-09 19:54 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-09 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10 1:58 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-09 21:07 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-10 2:18 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-10 2:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-10 2:56 ` Mark Oteiza
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2016-02-10 21:17 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-11 3:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-12 22:36 ` Per Starbäck
2016-02-13 8:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 10:10 ` Markus Triska
2016-02-13 10:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 16:46 ` joakim
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2016-02-11 1:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-12 0:50 ` Juri Linkov
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2016-02-12 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-12 7:32 ` Óscar Fuentes
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2016-02-12 10:03 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-12 11:11 ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-12 18:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
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2016-02-12 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2016-02-12 23:57 ` Juri Linkov
2016-02-13 0:06 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-13 8:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-13 17:20 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-13 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 19:15 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-18 20:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 5:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-19 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 9:22 ` Elias Mårtenson
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2016-02-20 5:22 ` Elias Mårtenson
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