* Re: gnus org and tags [not found] <d0bee8fd76144d01aca1878f3bb5fbb4@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> @ 2016-10-13 8:14 ` Eric S Fraga 2016-10-13 11:10 ` Uwe Brauer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Eric S Fraga @ 2016-10-13 8:14 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode On Wednesday, 12 Oct 2016 at 08:42, Uwe Brauer wrote: > Hi > > I would like to add to certain messages (which I read via gnus and the > imap protocol) tags so that searching is simplified. Is there a way to > do that using the org tags engine? Gnorb would be a candidate but that > feature is listed in the TODO list. Might not be what you want but I turn this inside out and use org capture to create notes, with tags, that link back to the email message. I then use org to search etc. with C-c C-o to get back to the email. -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.1.1, Org release_8.3.6-1207-g91e263 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus org and tags 2016-10-13 8:14 ` gnus org and tags Eric S Fraga @ 2016-10-13 11:10 ` Uwe Brauer 2016-10-13 16:02 ` Nick Dokos [not found] ` <4b55752816294d39b6537391ad54a2b1@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Uwe Brauer @ 2016-10-13 11:10 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode >>> "Eric" == Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes: > On Wednesday, 12 Oct 2016 at 08:42, Uwe Brauer wrote: >> Hi >> >> I would like to add to certain messages (which I read via gnus and the >> imap protocol) tags so that searching is simplified. Is there a way to >> do that using the org tags engine? Gnorb would be a candidate but that >> feature is listed in the TODO list. > Might not be what you want but I turn this inside out and use org > capture to create notes, with tags, that link back to the email > message. I then use org to search etc. with C-c C-o to get back to the > email. Yes I sometimes to that as well but then I tend to forgot where I put that information etc. So I really prefer the other way around. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus org and tags 2016-10-13 11:10 ` Uwe Brauer @ 2016-10-13 16:02 ` Nick Dokos [not found] ` <4b55752816294d39b6537391ad54a2b1@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2016-10-13 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes: >>>> "Eric" == Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes: > > > On Wednesday, 12 Oct 2016 at 08:42, Uwe Brauer wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> I would like to add to certain messages (which I read via gnus and the > >> imap protocol) tags so that searching is simplified. Is there a way to > >> do that using the org tags engine? Gnorb would be a candidate but that > >> feature is listed in the TODO list. > > > Might not be what you want but I turn this inside out and use org > > capture to create notes, with tags, that link back to the email > > message. I then use org to search etc. with C-c C-o to get back to the > > email. > > Yes I sometimes to that as well but then I tend to forgot where I put > that information etc. So I really prefer the other way around. > > > I have a single notes.org file (not an agenda file), where I do exactly what Eric described and I have defined keys to get to it fast: no more "where did I put that scrap of information" - well, not true: if I were perfectly disciplined that would be the case, but since I am not, I sometimes have to go hunt down that scrap; but the process is painful enough that once I find it, it goes into notes.org, no ifs, ands or buts ;-) -- Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* Re: gnus org and tags [not found] ` <4b55752816294d39b6537391ad54a2b1@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> @ 2016-10-14 7:57 ` Eric S Fraga 2016-10-15 13:14 ` Uwe Brauer [not found] ` <2c9fee5d1491480280cb0c85ebda9352@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Eric S Fraga @ 2016-10-14 7:57 UTC (permalink / raw To: Nick Dokos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Thursday, 13 Oct 2016 at 16:02, Nick Dokos wrote: [...] > I have a single notes.org file (not an agenda file), where I do exactly what > Eric described and I have defined keys to get to it fast: no more "where did I As do I. I guess this is a key part of this use case: it must be easy to find those notes. My (abridged) capture template looks like this: #+begin_src emacs-lisp (setq org-capture-templates '( ("m" "Mail options") ("mt" "mailtodo" entry (file+datetree "~/s/notes/tasks.org") "* TODO %^{Task} : %:subject %^G\nSCHEDULED: %t\n- From :: %:from\n- Subject :: %:subject\n- Email :: %a\n\n%?" :kill-buffer t) ("mn" "mailnote" entry (file+headline "~/s/notes/notes.org" "general notes and tasks") "* %^{Title} : %:subject %^G\n- From :: %:from\n- Subject :: %:subject\n- Email :: %a\n\n%?\n\n%U") )) #+end_src Tag search etc. in org makes finding the notes relatively painless. As a bonus, the "mt" template is to allow me to get to INBOX 0 by making sure I don't leave emails lying around unread or ticked. If they need further processing, an appropriate TODO task is created which links back to the email. This task is scheduled for immediate action by default but obviously easily changed during the capture, very often by unscheduling but adding a deadline, for instance. -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.2.50.1, Org release_8.3.6-1184-g29830f ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus org and tags 2016-10-14 7:57 ` Eric S Fraga @ 2016-10-15 13:14 ` Uwe Brauer [not found] ` <2c9fee5d1491480280cb0c85ebda9352@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Uwe Brauer @ 2016-10-15 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode >>> "Eric" == Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes: > On Thursday, 13 Oct 2016 at 16:02, Nick Dokos wrote: > [...] >> I have a single notes.org file (not an agenda file), where I do exactly what >> Eric described and I have defined keys to get to it fast: no more "where did I > As do I. I guess this is a key part of this use case: it must be easy > to find those notes. My (abridged) capture template looks like this: > #+begin_src emacs-lisp > (setq org-capture-templates > '( > ("m" "Mail options") > ("mt" "mailtodo" > entry (file+datetree "~/s/notes/tasks.org") > "* TODO %^{Task} : %:subject %^G\nSCHEDULED: %t\n- From :: %:from\n- Subject :: %:subject\n- Email :: %a\n\n%?" :kill-buffer t) > ("mn" "mailnote" > entry (file+headline "~/s/notes/notes.org" "general notes and tasks") > "* %^{Title} : %:subject %^G\n- From :: %:from\n- Subject :: %:subject\n- Email :: %a\n\n%?\n\n%U") > )) > #+end_src Ok that is relatively cool. > Tag search etc. in org makes finding the notes relatively painless. How do you search, starting where? > As a bonus, the "mt" template is to allow me to get to INBOX 0 by making > sure I don't leave emails lying around unread or ticked. If they need > further processing, an appropriate TODO task is created which links back > to the email. This task is scheduled for immediate action by default > but obviously easily changed during the capture, very often by > unscheduling but adding a deadline, for instance. For the imap backend? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* Re: gnus org and tags [not found] ` <2c9fee5d1491480280cb0c85ebda9352@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com> @ 2016-10-15 14:15 ` Eric S Fraga 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Eric S Fraga @ 2016-10-15 14:15 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode On Saturday, 15 Oct 2016 at 13:14, Uwe Brauer wrote: >>>> "Eric" == Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes: > > Tag search etc. in org makes finding the notes relatively painless. > > How do you search, starting where? Typically, using the agenda tags search: C-c a m and, if that fails, the more general search: C-c a s where "C-c a" has been bound to org-agenda. Less frequently, org-sparse-tree (C-c /) within a specific org file. > > As a bonus, the "mt" template is to allow me to get to INBOX 0 by making > > sure I don't leave emails lying around unread or ticked. If they need > > further processing, an appropriate TODO task is created which links back > > to the email. This task is scheduled for immediate action by default > > but obviously easily changed during the capture, very often by > > unscheduling but adding a deadline, for instance. > > For the imap backend? Yes, sorry, very much for IMAP. Probably possible with other backends but I only use IMAP because of wanting to access my emails from various devices. HTH, eric -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.2.50.1, Org release_8.3.6-1184-g29830f ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* gnus org and tags @ 2016-10-12 8:42 Uwe Brauer 2016-10-12 19:10 ` Eric Abrahamsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Uwe Brauer @ 2016-10-12 8:42 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode Hi I would like to add to certain messages (which I read via gnus and the imap protocol) tags so that searching is simplified. Is there a way to do that using the org tags engine? Gnorb would be a candidate but that feature is listed in the TODO list. Regards Uwe Brauer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus org and tags 2016-10-12 8:42 Uwe Brauer @ 2016-10-12 19:10 ` Eric Abrahamsen 2016-10-13 11:11 ` Uwe Brauer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2016-10-12 19:10 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes: > Hi > > I would like to add to certain messages (which I read via gnus and the > imap protocol) tags so that searching is simplified. Is there a way to > do that using the org tags engine? Gnorb would be a candidate but that > feature is listed in the TODO list. Yup, I haven't gotten to it, mostly because message tagging is one part of a much larger new feature set that I haven't had time to implement yet. That, and most of my hacking time has been taken up by a new version of BBDB I'm working on -- still part of the larger Gnorb project. My idea was to use the Gnus registry to record Org tags, which means that searching would have to be done via the registry, not the usual nnir search interface. Would that be acceptable to you, or would you rather somehow store the tags in IMAP itself? Eric ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus org and tags 2016-10-12 19:10 ` Eric Abrahamsen @ 2016-10-13 11:11 ` Uwe Brauer 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Uwe Brauer @ 2016-10-13 11:11 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode > Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes: > Yup, I haven't gotten to it, mostly because message tagging is one part > of a much larger new feature set that I haven't had time to implement > yet. That, and most of my hacking time has been taken up by a new > version of BBDB I'm working on -- still part of the larger Gnorb > project. > My idea was to use the Gnus registry to record Org tags, which means > that searching would have to be done via the registry, not the usual > nnir search interface. Would that be acceptable to you, or would you > rather somehow store the tags in IMAP itself? Definitely it would, I tried to play around with the registry myself but right now had a problem. I am really looking forward to see such a feature. Thanks Uwe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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