From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Narendra Joshi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Requiring elisp that comes with Emacs Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 20:40:14 +0530 Message-ID: <87efzi6j6x.fsf@gmail.com> References: <874m0gv6ba.fsf@gmail.com> <87k29bl4v0.fsf@gmail.com> <87fujzknh5.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1485962959 27917 195.159.176.226 (1 Feb 2017 15:29:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 15:29:19 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Skip Montanaro Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 01 16:29:11 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cYwqK-0006sh-Pw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2017 16:29:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51565 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cYwqQ-00043m-6s for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2017 10:29:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37130) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cYwU1-00076X-8I for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2017 10:06:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cYwTv-0008DA-Cw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2017 10:06:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-x244.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::244]:35480) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cYwTv-0008CP-8N for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2017 10:05:59 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-x244.google.com with SMTP id f144so32005693pfa.2 for ; Wed, 01 Feb 2017 07:05:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=ukkLyxUbPX5zs/d4nN23QjjtJYMQLWO8tJ4btoiqsPA=; b=RGkJep+6ElXJCJjAhJMSugKJLu7XwLUv7zrz3J6/rXG5IsQwDLY5v3SAteBk7cM/ch fPijew7YXd21PKGN6ZFYH5iyqtUYg9Kzv+pxSQ/NO3zJR+5/CzvExlg8Qi7YY8jSXNxo tck/RWLoj1L+Al5lbHdvToMhTVSFc546I9/hYGYgpbe7r+7gW+UvreeYN2gGG+LomkqL RbssrTe2O/BT/+qUOqM5h8sinK/VxLj9s3ogLPc9Q2TYqVTQ38xkujMTLoNig9TJyJx4 4p/pZGoIeig6tjcnMhJW2bqHzDdaaBpO9r9CVJBoq2Oy2w4u07BTdbnPprnv2AAI2Ouv 3YEQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=ukkLyxUbPX5zs/d4nN23QjjtJYMQLWO8tJ4btoiqsPA=; b=MT23DLndnEj1+u29+2TfthvXQN9vEIflAK+XwlQ/raIrSfPw1ZiVwYAa1SG2L+ElX8 MGFv+1Q78pB+F+DfyvdDzGjUFSwLWkwcWEaY8zeS3bCbfimogeIi4hxr5b7VRg7FD1oD T6yHFhAQZBazDaf7rYVitUnflwabkf6HmfvlM95URlS1dzoiS5eRWraWK+I9diGNR/O4 +ytarnHj13X6NnrHiF+Y1lfdAK7ETxbOjdrw0rgrmP0CeX+P8pRWQY/5E3HddbmrX2Tw XIQ9bwWefADUcDfyBuhux/yIpnYQV7AUOjUwYTCifTv6PA5fZd5eb9xXpOeZx4b+LeMf zxZg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKOXiAhNwzlmM4iX0oxB+knw/JkGIi6SdEAf2D+PYObUmsZdDnNGYkDlUG0X+/skQ== X-Received: by 10.84.173.195 with SMTP id p61mr5098151plb.63.1485961557826; Wed, 01 Feb 2017 07:05:57 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from vicarie ([182.70.100.223]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l12sm50444968pfj.37.2017.02.01.07.05.55 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 01 Feb 2017 07:05:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Skip Montanaro's message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2017 14:40:55 -0600") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::244 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:112228 Archived-At: Skip Montanaro writes: That's true! :) This is the first time I am participating in a mailing list and I really like this particular one. :) >> Why would you let someone else manage it for you? > > This is not really an Emacs question. It is more of a quality of life > question. Still, since you asked... > > I let someone else manage my Emacs installations for the same reasons > that: > > I no longer rebuild my Linux kernel daily (as I used to 20 or > more years ago) > I rely on a third party to maintain a complex Python environment > (despite having been one of the core Python developers in dim, > dark the past) > Let the mechanic do tune-ups on my car > > There is value in stability and knowing when others are better at a > particular task than I am (or at least good enough that I can > delegate to them). I can't be an expert in everything. Sometimes, > even if I know I can do the job myself, it's worth it to let someone > else do it, because time - as they say - is money. If I'm fiddling > with my Emacs installation or changing the oil in my car, that's time > when I could have been doing something else of more personal value to > me, like working on paying work, riding my bike, or having dinner > with my wife. I have more important things to do with my time than > fiddle with a complex tool chain on a continuous (or even occasional) > basis. > > S > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Narendra Joshi > wrote: > > Skip Montanaro writes: > > > (require) a fewpackages in my .emacs file: mouse, > > auto-complete-config, and lua-mode. I didn't install any of > them > > (someone else manages my local Emacs installation), so they may > not > > That's interesting. Why would you let someone else manage it for > you? > > - Narendra > > > > -- - Narendra