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From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 37b88d7: Fix bug#23006
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 11:32:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87efy5fmml.fsf@detlef> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvefy55tyc.fsf-monnier+emacsdiffs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 10 Mar 2017 05:10:59 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> The only meaning of `non-essential' is to give Tramp a hint that we're
>> in completion.
>
> No, the meaning of it is: we're running code which is not essential
> (basically, running in something equivalent to a background thread).
>
> It's been introduced mainly for Tramp, so that Tramp can decide whether
> it should try to open a new connection or not (e.g., it should open
> a new connection when the user does `C-x C-f /ssh:foo:bar TAB' but it
> shouldn't open a new connection when the user does
> `M-x icomplete-mode RET C-x C-f /ssh:foo:bar').

It is not only the password case. It is also the ambiguity of the remote
file name syntax, where "/abc:" could be already a hostname, or just a
method. Tramp must know whether it is in completion, and behave accordingly.
File name handlers are bound to the syntax of a file name; no semantics
included.

I hate this ambiguity since ever (I've entered Tramp maintenace in
2002). But we are much too late to change the syntax.

> The binding you added gets rid of this distinction, and indeed, now if
> I do `C-x C-f /ssh:foo:bar TAB' I don't get any completion any more.

A single "/" helps. Try `C-x C-f /ssh:foo:./bar TAB' for example.

>         Stefan

Best regards, Michael.



  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-10 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20170309184458.08C9725FCF@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2017-03-10  8:43   ` [Emacs-diffs] master 37b88d7: Fix bug#23006 Stefan Monnier
2017-03-10 10:00     ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-10 10:10       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-10 10:32         ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2017-03-10 10:57           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-10 14:14             ` Change Tramp syntax (was: [Emacs-diffs] master 37b88d7: Fix bug#23006) Michael Albinus
2017-03-10 15:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-03 15:54                 ` Change Tramp syntax John Wiegley
2017-04-03 17:00                   ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-03 23:14                     ` John Wiegley
2017-04-03 23:35                       ` Drew Adams
2017-04-04  8:46                       ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-04 16:46                         ` John Wiegley
2017-04-04 16:59                           ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-04 19:44                             ` John Wiegley
2017-04-06 19:12                               ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-07  5:27                                 ` John Wiegley
2017-04-08 16:43                                   ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-13 18:00                                     ` John Wiegley
2017-04-07 13:52                                 ` Filipp Gunbin
2017-04-07 14:02                                   ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-08 16:41                                   ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-09 19:18                                     ` Talking about Lisp symbols Richard Stallman
2017-04-10 13:43                                     ` Change Tramp syntax Filipp Gunbin
2017-04-10 16:18                                     ` Teemu Likonen
2017-04-10 16:45                                       ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-10 18:03                                         ` Teemu Likonen
2017-04-04 17:04                       ` John Wiegley
2017-04-04 17:50                         ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-04 21:08                           ` John Wiegley
2017-04-04  7:09                     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-03-10 16:56               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-11 19:44                 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-11 20:08                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-11 20:31                     ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-12 15:18                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-12 18:30                         ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-12 22:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-13 17:23                           ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-13 17:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-13 17:35                               ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-14  3:38                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14  9:06                                   ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-14 14:13                                     ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-14 16:11                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14 15:58                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-11 21:54                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-12  9:10                     ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-12 17:12                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-12 18:43                         ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-12 21:50                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-13  7:23                             ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-10 10:30       ` [Emacs-diffs] master 37b88d7: Fix bug#23006 Dmitry Gutov
2017-03-10 10:36         ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-10 13:44           ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-03-10 10:34       ` Stefan Monnier

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